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Bill's Treasures; originally OP's treasures
Topic Started: Jul 5 2014, 06:33 AM (116,962 Views)
Bill
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originally, one_piece

ok, i can see everyone's point, and yes, i did made a mistake using textures from that render without asking Eryel about it. partly cause i adore it so much and i couldn't find a better texture for the head.

so, to resolve this, i'll pm Eryel about this matter, asking for permission to use the texture, if she's find with it, i'll release it, if not, guess it goes PU. i was careless and thought she would agree cause her public stuffs used to be strictly PD. i apologize for the dramas i had caused.

in another news, the stygimoloch is working flawlessly, what's left is to fix some distortion with the anim and it is ready to go!
Edited by Bill, Mar 21 2015, 10:16 PM.
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Admiral General Aladeen
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Alternatively, you could use a different texture on the head, fixing all the drama :P

This decision is up to you, of course
Edited by Admiral General Aladeen, Mar 22 2015, 12:34 AM.
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the dark phoenix
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King of wonderlandia

If it does go PU, at least we had the honor to see such a amazing piece of work.

Can't wait for the stygimoloch. It and dracorex are my two favorite pachies.
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Eryel
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About the Ouranosaur... I prefer to post here and not response to the PM to let everyone read to me:

I'm surprised, Bill... You really used the textures from a render?? really?? a render???

I get out of communities for viewing my work stolen, now I decided to show some of my work on renders to maintain a link with this forum and its people and I have my work stolen using that renders!! I can't believe it... You're a designer Bill, you should know how it feels to have your work stolen this way, I believed in you as designer, moderator and partner...

The answer is NO, and if you have honour as designer and mod, you will not show or share this Ouranosaur anyway here or on other forums with that textures, because this project is not a PD or a PU stuff, it's a LEAKED stuff.
Edited by Eryel, Mar 25 2015, 04:41 PM.
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Similis
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With all respect to your work Eryel, as long as Bill doesn't use textures from your render, instead finding his own, the project can easily be PD. And that's not how leaking content works. Infringing on your intellectual property rights of texture applied to a 3D model and presented on a render is one thing, but he doesn't have or release an actual copy of your design. Replacement texture isn't hard to find, so you're not quite in position to declare the whole project "Leaked" or "yours", really.
Edited by Similis, Mar 25 2015, 04:46 PM.
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Yeah, if this have been the situation, I won't have any problema about this project, but here you have a copy and paste from Bill's PM:
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Recently there have been some issues coming up in my project topic, basically because i used part of the textures from the Ouranosaurus's render you posted in your PU project on my ouranosaurus, without asking you.

He actually use my renders textures as he says here.
Edited by Eryel, Mar 25 2015, 04:50 PM.
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Similis
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This way anyone can copypaste your render onto their project and have it 'leaked'. Essentially you 'leaked' it yourself by posting the render, if we go this route.

If Bill removes the bits taken from screenshot of the texture you applied to your model, there's nothing stopping him from easily and legally releasing the project. Frankly I don't see which part of the renders was used, but just because it offended and as evident angered you, it doesn't give you rights to declare whole project 'leaked content'.
Edited by Similis, Mar 25 2015, 04:52 PM.
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Envy
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Would you look at me? I'm setting records.

Bill can still release it if he uses a different texture or makes his own...
Or will you also claim that he plagiarized "your style" of markings on his Ouranosaurus?

Posted Image

Posted Image

I guess all of these must be copying yours.
Edited by Envy, Mar 25 2015, 04:55 PM.
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I don't gonna discuss the leaked's definition, my ouranosaur is an unfinished project, I showed some parts of the process after receiving some constructive criticisms about it and someone use this parts on his projects, it's enought for me.

About what really matters, exactly, if he removes my textures he can do wathever he want with this project, but he asked me for permission to release this project with my render textures and I answered to this with a negative.

And Envy, I don't care about the markings or colours, I'm caring about a copy-paste of my unfinished work.
Edited by Eryel, Mar 25 2015, 04:58 PM.
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Envy
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Would you look at me? I'm setting records.

I'm pointing it out before you decide to take this out of proportion and also infer that Bill plagiarized your design and its whole entity is leaked. Not to mention since you did post the render, you did essentially "leak" it yourself. Just because you went PU doesn't automatically mean the things you post are too. It's quite contradictory really. You just love to play the victim, it's quite painful to see someone be so attention-hungry. You can hate me for saying this, but it's the truth.

Also, Bill would just keep us notified after you personal response (in PM) like: "Hey guys, so I asked Eryel and she said I could not use her stuff and release this, so I will have to use my own render/textures". There, simple as that. No need to just bash on him on his own project thread and make him look as the bad guy.
He even apologized, didn't he?
Edited by Envy, Mar 25 2015, 05:11 PM.
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So Eryel, if Bill used different textures, would he be allowed then? Because the skin itself looks nothing like yours.
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Eryel
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The true impact is what I'm seeing in this forums this last times, Mr Gorsh, people never stop surprising me.

Bill have my answer, if he removes all my stuff, he can do wathever he want. I will not upload more detailed renders without a watermark to avoid this stupid situations because it seems that "make what you want with all you want" is the new rule of the forum, and the conversation is degenerating, so bye bye kids.
Edited by Eryel, Mar 25 2015, 05:14 PM.
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Envy
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Would you look at me? I'm setting records.

Logically he would be able to release it if he used his own texture or if he asked someone else for permission. Admiral even suggested it to him.
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Furka
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So now that the situation has been explained, can we get over this ?
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Admiral General Aladeen
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Keep in mind Bill hasn't posted here since a page ago when he admitted it wasn't right to have used Eryel's texture.

At this point we should just wait and see what he has to say.
Bill is a reasonable guy, and he already essentially fixed the problem by admitting what he did. We might as well just wait until he's back... :roll:

Edit: Wasn't trying to backseat mod, I got ninja'd
Edited by Admiral General Aladeen, Mar 25 2015, 05:16 PM.
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