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Animal Combinations; Mixed exhibits questions
Topic Started: Nov 23 2014, 09:51 PM (123,761 Views)
KoenZoo
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I'm planning on building a Central America House. I want to keep Baird's Tapirs, West Indian Manatees, Nine-banded Armadillos, Northern Tamanduas, White-headed Capuchins, Cuban Crocodiles and Ocelots. The Crocodiles and Ocelots will be separated because they are predators, but can I "combine" the other species? I want to give the Tapirs a large indoor exhibit next to the Armadillos. Is it possible to make a natural barrier so that the Armadillos can access the Tapirs exhibit, but the Tapirs can't reach theirs? And is it possible to give the Tapirs access to the Manatees lagoon or should I make a barrier so that they can't reach each other (and is the salt a problem?)? I also wanted to let the Capuchins and Tamanduas free roam the building. It that possible with the Tapirs, Armadillos and Manatees? And can the two species kept together? The building will be really big so that they don't need to stick close to each other.

So my questions:
1. Tapirs and Armadillos?
2. Tapirs and Manatees?
3. Capuchins and Tamanduas?
4. All species without the Crocodiles/Ocelots?
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Uolym
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1) I think so, just provide a safe space where the armadillos can escape the tapirs without troubles.

2) Nah… A barrier would be better and freshwater only for the tapirs. Manatees usually are ok with freshwater or saltwater.

3) Capuchins are big bullies toward other primates, but I do not know for the tamanduas… Maybe it would be best to separated them, but other opinions would be welcomed.

4) Not really, see above. :P
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Zoo Tycooner FR
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#Lithopédion

What species of manatee are you planning to have ?
Edited by Zoo Tycooner FR, Jul 29 2016, 03:48 PM.
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KoenZoo
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Uolym
Jul 29 2016, 03:46 PM
1) I think so, just provide a safe space where the armadillos can escape the tapirs without troubles.

2) Nah… A barrier would be better and freshwater only for the tapirs. Manatees usually are ok with freshwater or saltwater.

3) Capuchins are big bullies toward other primates, but I do not know for the tamanduas… Maybe it would be best to separated them, but other opinions would be welcomed.

4) Not really, see above. :P

Thank you for your respons. In that case I might let them share the same water, but with a barrier between them (don't now yet if I'll go for wooden poles or a rock wall). Maybe also stretch the water across the building, to split it in half, so I can let the Capuchins roam around in one half and the Tamanduas in the other half.

Zoo Tycooner FR
Jul 29 2016, 03:48 PM
What species of manatee are you planning to have ?

West Indian Manatees.
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Zoo Tycooner FR
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Then you indeed can have them in a saltwater environment ,same for West African manatees but I heard somewhere that the Amazonian manatee is the only (confirmed) species of manatees living exclusively in freshwater .
Edited by Zoo Tycooner FR, Jul 29 2016, 04:02 PM.
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KoenZoo
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Yes with the saltwater being a problem I was more pointing to keep them in the same water as the Tapirs (which could drink from the water). They can live in freshwater, but I don't know if it's healthy for them to keep them always in fresh water.
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Uolym
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West Indian Manatees are kept in freshwater without any troubles in the Parc zoologique de Paris (previously Vincennes). Its usual practice when they are not for reintroduction or in a mangrove/seagrasses meadows-themed exhibit. ;)
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KoenZoo
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Okay thank you. Then I don't need to worry to keep them in freshwater.
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Jony
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Uolym
Jul 29 2016, 04:23 PM
West Indian Manatees are kept in freshwater without any troubles in the Parc zoologique de Paris (previously Vincennes). Its usual practice when they are not for reintroduction or in a mangrove/seagrasses meadows-themed exhibit. ;)
Berlin, Nuremberg, Arnheim (I think) and I think all other European zoos which have manatees keep them in freshwater ;)
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KoenZoo
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Ah, I thought that Burgers Zoo (Arnhem) kept a different subspecies, but I looked wrong.
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Jony
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No, the only (sub)species of manatees that is being kept in Europe is the West Indian Manatee ;)
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KoenZoo
Jul 29 2016, 03:25 PM
I'm planning on building a Central America House. I want to keep Baird's Tapirs, West Indian Manatees, Nine-banded Armadillos, Northern Tamanduas, White-headed Capuchins, Cuban Crocodiles and Ocelots. The Crocodiles and Ocelots will be separated because they are predators, but can I "combine" the other species? I want to give the Tapirs a large indoor exhibit next to the Armadillos. Is it possible to make a natural barrier so that the Armadillos can access the Tapirs exhibit, but the Tapirs can't reach theirs? And is it possible to give the Tapirs access to the Manatees lagoon or should I make a barrier so that they can't reach each other (and is the salt a problem?)? I also wanted to let the Capuchins and Tamanduas free roam the building. It that possible with the Tapirs, Armadillos and Manatees? And can the two species kept together? The building will be really big so that they don't need to stick close to each other.

So my questions:
1. Tapirs and Armadillos?
2. Tapirs and Manatees?
3. Capuchins and Tamanduas?
4. All species without the Crocodiles/Ocelots?
You have a problem though, if you want to have the armadillos combinable with the tapirs, and the tapirs combinable with the manatees, then you need to have very small spaces inbetween the wooden poles for the manatee/tapir separation. The reason for this is that armadillos are excellent swimmers, and manatees would probably be very interested in the armadillos, which would stress them out if the armadillo managed to get inside the tank. Armadillos have also been recorded to walk on the bottom of water areas (rivers/lakes), which could lead them into direct contact with the manatees.
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KoenZoo
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For that I'm not too worried. At Burgers Zoo here in The Netherlands the Manatees are kept with Capybaras, Ducks and Turtles and that combination is also working out. They can even steal the food which the Manatees are getting without a problem.
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BossMayhem250
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Would any of these combos work
Black Rhino/White Rhino, Cheetah
Patas Monkey, Vervet (Green) Monkey
Mandrill, Red River Hog, Okapi
Asian Elephant, Indian Rhinoceros, Babirusa, Fallow Deer
Polar Bear, Arctic Fox
Also, is there anything that Gorillas, or Giant Pandas could combine with?
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Uolym
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BossMayhem250
Aug 5 2016, 03:46 PM
Would any of these combos work
Black Rhino/White Rhino, Cheetah
Patas Monkey, Vervet (Green) Monkey
Mandrill, Red River Hog, Okapi
Asian Elephant, Indian Rhinoceros, Babirusa, Fallow Deer
Polar Bear, Arctic Fox
Also, is there anything that Gorillas, or Giant Pandas could combine with?
1) I think it has been done, but I would not recommend it, especially with Black rhino.

2)Maybe.

3)First two, but keep the Okapi out of it.

4)Maybe, but sounds like its going to be really beautiful or a bloody exhibit with the Rhinos + elephants + pigs. Fallow Deer goes with everyone, except if they have babies, then not with the pigs.

5)No, unless you wish the Bears to get extra food.

6)With Gorillas, Mangabeys for sure, probably free-flying birds. Pandas, I do not know.
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