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| Animal Combinations; Mixed exhibits questions | |
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| Topic Started: Nov 23 2014, 09:51 PM (123,714 Views) | |
| Furka | Oct 31 2017, 02:03 PM Post #2566 |
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Wouldn't put a chameleon in a too large setting tho, it would most likely go unnoticed. |
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| Red Tycooner103 | Oct 31 2017, 03:55 PM Post #2567 |
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Good point on the chameleons, they're better off in their own exhibit. I'll propably just exhibit a pair of Pitta in their own single exhibit. Thanks everybody for helping. |
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| Cowrie | Nov 1 2017, 04:39 PM Post #2568 |
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A few pages back I asked about a couple of aquatic combos with no response, so I thought I'd ask again, with a couple of additions. First of all, a large Caribbean Reef tank with bonnethead sharks, French angelfish, great barracudas, queen parrotfish, trumpetfish, a tiger shark, one or two green morays, and maybe a green sea turtle. Are there any conflicts there? Are there any must-have species I left out? I'd also like some sort of ray in the tank, but I'm not sure what species would best fit in. There's also an Amazon River tank. Are there any issues keeping butterfly peacock bass, giant arapaima, ocellate river stingrays, payara, pirapitinga, redtail catfish, some sort of large plecostomus, and maybe gilded catfish together? I might also like to add at least one piraiba to the mix. I'd also like tiger shovelnoses and ripsaw catfish, but as of right now we don't have either in the game. Information as to the numbers of individuals of a given species that can be kept together would also be helpful for both tanks. Edited by Cowrie, Nov 1 2017, 05:01 PM.
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| stargatedalek | Nov 1 2017, 05:39 PM Post #2569 |
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I'm not slow! That's just my moe!
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Tiger sharks are territorial and I wouldn't recommend combining them with anything of decent size, especially other sharks or turtles, as they may attack it simply for being there even if kept well fed. Morays are a mixed bag and unlike a lot of fish it really comes down to the individual eels, but long story short it's perfectly realistic to keep them in a tank with small fish, and they are definitely fine with turtles. Best to keep a couple of big morays together, the less bored they are the less likely they eat something. I can't speak with certainty for great barracuda but the New England Aquarium has "some" barracuda in their large reef tank with turtles, morays, bonnetheads and small fish. Bonnetheads and turtles should be fine, both are pretty docile. Rays are typically pretty mild mannered (if not actively friendly) and are unlikely to cause issues with anything, around here juvenile rays are a touch-tank staple. But be sure to avoid small rays as the bonnetheads may attack them? Waaaaaay to many catfish, what you're describing would create a highly competitive environment and anything small wouldn't survive very long. Narrow it down to one large bottom feeder and that combination is golden. |
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| Cowrie | Nov 1 2017, 06:14 PM Post #2570 |
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Hmm, the tiger shark was really supposed to be a major feature. Perhaps I'll make it two neighboring tanks, then, one with the tiger shark, the other housing the bonnetheads and turtle. You said large animals will provoke a territorial response from tiger sharks, but would it be safe to keep it with (relatively) small fish like the French angels and queen parrotfish? For the rays, I was leaning towards spotted eagle rays, so those are plenty big to be kept with bonnetheads. As for the catfish in the amazon tank, do you mean one species or one individual? If I have to stick to a single species of catfish, I'll probably go with the redtail, since of the catfish available in-game it's the most iconic, but in that case I'd ideally like two or three of them for increased visibility since it's going to be a rather large tank. Could a large plecostomus species still be housed in that tank with redtail catfish, since plecos are primarily herbivores? |
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| Fireplume | Nov 1 2017, 06:18 PM Post #2571 |
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I've seen tiger sharks combined, but honestly as Star said I'd watch other sharks of larger size and fish, though Southern Stingray and Cownose Rays were fine. |
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| Furka | Nov 1 2017, 06:33 PM Post #2572 |
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Genova used to have this big Caribbean tank, in which they had Green Sea Turtle, nurse shark, a large stingray I don't remember (roughtail maybe ?), green moray, goliath grouper, great barracuda, french or gray angelfish, lookdown, porkfish, spadefish, queen triggerfish, sergeant major and a hogfish (plus more small stuff I can't remember). I suppose you could add bonnethead as long as your tank has a LOT of open room so they can swim without hitting corals and hurting themselves. If you want another big shark that's more active than nurse you could try Lemon and/or sandbar, tho I wouldn't keep them with the smaller bonnetheads. Particular care should be taken with beaked fish like triggers and parrots because they could eat smaller stuff and even bite small sharks and rays. Amazonian large catfish tend to be territorial, you'd need a lot of room to house more than one (especially considerng you have stingrays taking up more floor space). Edited by Furka, Nov 1 2017, 06:34 PM.
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| stargatedalek | Nov 1 2017, 07:56 PM Post #2573 |
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I'm not slow! That's just my moe!
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Furka is right, you should stick to one catfish individual, perhaps a few if you don't keep adults though in that case you should also remove the rays. There's always going to be a risk keeping rays with large catfish regardless, but your odds improve greatly if you only have one catfish. |
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| Cowrie | Nov 1 2017, 08:58 PM Post #2574 |
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Okay, just one redtail. What about plecos, could one of the larger species such as a common pleco or lyretail pleco coexist peacefully with a redtail, or should I eliminate that? Thanks for all the advice! |
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| stargatedalek | Nov 1 2017, 09:28 PM Post #2575 |
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I'm not slow! That's just my moe!
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Plecos should be fine, rays are pretty friendly, and if you keep it to one large catfish it should be docile enough to leave small bottom dwellers alone for the most part. |
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| Furka | Nov 2 2017, 03:29 AM Post #2576 |
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Plecos should be fine once they are fully grown, although they have the same territorial issue of catfish so don't keep more than one unless you have a lot of room. As for rays and catfish, remember that catfish appreciate some sort of shelter structure like a cave or fallen logs, but rays require sandy floors without many obstacles. If you can find a balance between that and space, you shouldn't have problems housing them together. Edited by Furka, Nov 2 2017, 07:24 AM.
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| stargatedalek | Nov 2 2017, 03:27 PM Post #2577 |
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I'm not slow! That's just my moe!
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I used to see "colonies" of dozens of plecos in Florida all burrowing into the banks together, so they must not be "that" territorial, nothing comparable to these giant catfish which are notoriously aggressive and cannibalistic. |
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| Cowrie | Nov 2 2017, 04:37 PM Post #2578 |
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How big were the plecos in question? As I understand it, only the adults of the larger species are very territorial, and those big guys, while not cannibalistic, are known to seriously injure other plecos. However, the smaller species like bristlenoses or clown plecos and even the young of larger species are more tolerant of conspecifics. |
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| stargatedalek | Nov 2 2017, 10:22 PM Post #2579 |
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The species introduced in Florida are sailfin plecos. IDK exactly how large the ones I saw were but to see them from the shore they were likely 20 inches plus (sailfin can hit 25 on average). Any tank large enough to house a full sized arapaima let alone all of these other animals is going to be at least comparable to a segment of canal, in which these large plecos thrive. *edit* Seems there are multiple species in Florida; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pterygoplichthys Edited by stargatedalek, Nov 2 2017, 10:28 PM.
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| KoenZoo | Nov 11 2017, 09:31 AM Post #2580 |
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Would Pygmy Hippopotamus be combinable with Spotted-neck Otters? |
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