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Animal Combinations; Mixed exhibits questions
Topic Started: Nov 23 2014, 09:51 PM (123,709 Views)
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stargatedalek
Nov 28 2017, 04:12 PM
Fulcrum
Nov 28 2017, 12:40 PM
1. Asian elephants or Indian rhinoceroses with gaur?
2. Siamang with otters (I know it works with other gibbons but I wanted your opinion because Siamangs are bigger)?
3. Asian ungulates (deer or blackbuck) with gharials (since they are piscivores)?
4. African slender-snouted and dwarf crocodiles?
5. Echidnas and koalas?
6. Maned wolf and rheas?
7. African porcupines and african foxes?
Species that I want to have in a multispecies habitat but I need suggestions
8. Southern Pudu
9. Red Panda
10. Ground Hornbills

3. Mixing Tomistoma with anything large is iffy, they could get spooked and attack. They are fairly fragile despite their size and a large ungulate could easily kill one. They can be mixed with large turtles, birds, and lizards though.

5. Koalas are so arboreal and echidnas so reclusive that they would likely rarely interact, but it would't make much sense as an exhibit. It would end up being too large to properly observe either.

6. Absolutely not. Rheas can't even be kept with other ratites without risking serious injury or health concerns from long term stress, so there's no way they could be kept with wolves even if they weren't aggressive (by wolf standards).

9. Red panda are very aggressive, and not suited for mixed exhibits except with very large animals but then you would never see them.

10. Other large birds is probably your only good option, large mammals would out-compete the hornbills for space and anything small they will likely eat. Large waterfowl like egrets, flamingos or geese are probably your best options.
Eh I know it depends on individuals but:

5 - I think it would be make for a great exhibit, personally. Echidnas are not quite often active animals and if the indoor space isn't like gigantic, I guess you would still have chances to see the echidnas and have an outdoor exhibit for the koalas (access situated up so the echidnas can't pass through them or hell even if you want to keep the echidnas outdoor with the koalas you could)

9 - I've seen red pandas mixed with quite some smaller hoofstock species such as muntjac.

10 - Zoos keep them with yellow-backed duikers, bongos, gerenuks, kobs, zebras heck even giraffes. I don't think it would be much of a problem to be honest
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Nov 28 2017, 04:12 PM

3. Mixing Tomistoma with anything large is iffy, they could get spooked and attack. They are fairly fragile despite their size and a large ungulate could easily kill one. They can be mixed with large turtles, birds, and lizards though.

It wouldn't be tomistoma. It'd be Indian Gharial. Tampa's Lowry Park Zoo in FL has deer with their gharials and I was wondering if it would work for other species.
Edited by Goldblum, Nov 28 2017, 05:58 PM.
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Would Zebra/Quagga/Gazelle/Giraffe/Sivatherium work in a large safari tour exhibit, and what other animals both modern and extinct would you recommend? I am only looking for large animals, as the exhibit would be so large that smaller animals would get lost in it.
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ZoologicalBotanist
Nov 28 2017, 09:56 PM
Would Zebra/Quagga/Gazelle/Giraffe/Sivatherium work in a large safari tour exhibit, and what other animals both modern and extinct would you recommend? I am only looking for large animals, as the exhibit would be so large that smaller animals would get lost in it.

Ostriches could work, and if you have bodies of water white pelicans, any number of storks, and geese could also make good additions.

Despite their size guinea fowl and ducks would also work well as they don't wander far even when in a large exhibit and tend to stick together.
Fulcrum
Nov 28 2017, 05:58 PM
stargatedalek
Nov 28 2017, 04:12 PM

3. Mixing Tomistoma with anything large is iffy, they could get spooked and attack. They are fairly fragile despite their size and a large ungulate could easily kill one. They can be mixed with large turtles, birds, and lizards though.

It wouldn't be tomistoma. It'd be Indian Gharial. Tampa's Lowry Park Zoo in FL has deer with their gharials and I was wondering if it would work for other species.
In that case they should be fine with anything in that same general size so long as it's mild tempered. For example I still wouldn't trust red deer with them.

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Nov 28 2017, 05:35 PM
stargatedalek
Nov 28 2017, 04:12 PM

9. Red panda are very aggressive, and not suited for mixed exhibits except with very large animals but then you would never see them.

10. Other large birds is probably your only good option, large mammals would out-compete the hornbills for space and anything small they will likely eat. Large waterfowl like egrets, flamingos or geese are probably your best options.
Eh I know it depends on individuals but:

9 - I've seen red pandas mixed with quite some smaller hoofstock species such as muntjac.

10 - Zoos keep them with yellow-backed duikers, bongos, gerenuks, kobs, zebras heck even giraffes. I don't think it would be much of a problem to be honest

9. Muntjac are likely an exception, despite their size they are very fast and are plenty strong enough to seriously injure a red panda if cornered.

10. I was assuming the hornbills were intended to be the focus so I was trying to picture something fairly small where they could be observed. I'd never heard of them being kept in large safari styled enclosures but that makes sense that it would work.
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ZoologicalBotanist
Nov 28 2017, 09:56 PM
Would Zebra/Quagga/Gazelle/Giraffe/Sivatherium work in a large safari tour exhibit, and what other animals both modern and extinct would you recommend? I am only looking for large animals, as the exhibit would be so large that smaller animals would get lost in it.
Wouldn't keep zebras and quaggas together, for the risk of hybridization.

Other than that (assuming Sivatherium to be a rather peaceful anmal that doesn't give much trouble with other species, just to make things easier), pretty much every mid-to large sized antelope could work, all the birds Star mentioned (also cranes, bustards, ground hornbills and such), some zoos also keep vultures in ungulate exhibits but it's usually individuals with clipped wings.
White rhinos could work too if you have enough room, even better if you "confine" them in an area where the other animals can still get in and out of, just for safety.
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ZoologicalBotanist
Nov 28 2017, 09:56 PM
Would Zebra/Quagga/Gazelle/Giraffe/Sivatherium work in a large safari tour exhibit, and what other animals both modern and extinct would you recommend? I am only looking for large animals, as the exhibit would be so large that smaller animals would get lost in it.
I would suggest Ancylotherium and Elephant/Deinotherium
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Red pandas have also been combined succesfully with cranes, so that's an interesting combination as well. Duisburg has a mixed exhibit of sarus crane, red panda and Chinese muntjac. :D
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As for the Indian Gharial this is what Tampa's Lowry Park Zoo in Florida has on their site:

"Because they mostly eat fish, we are able to house Indian gharial with tufted deer and a large group of turtles. Deer would most certainly be on the menu for most other crocodilians, but the tufted deer and Indian gharial live well together. Like most reptiles, gharials do not need to eat as often as we humans do. Twice weekly, animal care staff offer trout by extending a bamboo rod toward the shore where the gharials are eagerly waiting. "

So maybe larger ungulates could be a problem, but smaller ones should be fine.
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KoenZoo
Nov 29 2017, 08:32 AM
So maybe larger ungulates could be a problem, but smaller ones should be fine.
So ungulates like hog deer or muntjac would be fine?
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I think that would work fine yeah.
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Weird one, flamingos and lemurs...
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Fulcrum
Nov 30 2017, 04:41 PM
Weird one, flamingos and lemurs...
Flamingos work with anything that won't eat them as long as there's enough space.
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Edit:Misread that

Anyways, ring-railed lemurs would probably try to eat the eggs of the flamingos if they could get to them.
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Nov 30 2017, 05:57 PM
Anyways, ring-*tailed* lemurs would probably try to eat the eggs of the flamingos if they could get to them.
Given that the flamingo eggs are separated
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What semi-aquatic animals (preferably Chinese) could go with a Chinese alligator that are about the same size or not to much carger than it?
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