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Animal Combinations; Mixed exhibits questions
Topic Started: Nov 23 2014, 09:51 PM (123,704 Views)
Anolis
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Absolutely not a good idea.
Edited by Anolis, Jan 26 2018, 11:57 PM.
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Panthera-Onca
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Hi!

ZS1972
Jan 26 2018, 11:56 PM
Absolutely not a good idea.
Aww man, but could I put serval cubs in the petting zoo? :)
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Furka
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No because people already told you that baby cats are not suited to interact with guests.
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stargatedalek
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I'm not slow! That's just my moe!

Panthera Onca
Jan 26 2018, 11:57 PM
ZS1972
Jan 26 2018, 11:56 PM
Absolutely not a good idea.
Aww man, but could I put serval cubs in the petting zoo? :)
Moose are jerks, don't put them with anything :P

Ofc you can't just leave baby animals wandering around in a petting zoo, cats or otherwise, but allowing visitors to pet or hold them during dedicated events when closely monitored is nothing unheard of. As long as it isn't their daily routine and they're kept closely monitored there is nothing wrong with allowing guests to handle baby cats under supervision.
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Anton
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Zoos are already struggling enough to try and stay afloat because of all the anti-captivity criticism they receive. If we want zoos to exist in the future, we have to stop feeding anti-caps ammo.

Oh, and as a lot of people have said earlier, it's bad for the animals to separate them from their parents (unless absolutely necessary), as by doing this the animals become too used to human presence and can be rejected by their parents.

It really isn't rocket science. Species we've spent thousands of years domesticating are fine to be handled often by humans, baby animals with strong parental bonds and hierarchies aren't.
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stargatedalek
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I'm not slow! That's just my moe!

Try to have a sense of context.

This thread is for asking what combinations of animals and exhibit designs are scientifically plausible and sound for the sake of immersion, this isn't supposed to be some sort of social commentary.

Points like "but there are some moral questions and objections to it and it makes the anti-caps hard so keep that in mind" is a perfectly valid statement as a footnote, but people are being absolutely vicious here and acting like that's the point of this thread. The purpose of this thread is to discuss what's scientifically plausible, not what you consider to be morally right or wrong.

This thread is intended to help people achieve a realistic final design, that's it, it's not about trying to convince people to do things your way or to not do things because you personally have moral objections.
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Panthera-Onca
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Hi!

Thanks Star, I know I can count on you :)

Could I put African wild dogs with elephants? In Zoo Tycoon 1 they get along fine
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stargatedalek
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I'm not slow! That's just my moe!

Panthera Onca
Jan 27 2018, 12:12 PM
Thanks Star, I know I can count on you :)

Could I put African wild dogs with elephants? In Zoo Tycoon 1 they get along fine
Elephants can be quite aggressive towards wild dogs, even when they don't have calves nearby, so I wouldn't recommend it unless there were barriers between them.
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Anton
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stargatedalek
 
This thread is intended to help people achieve a realistic final design, that's it

I'm just giving my insights on what the public opinion would be if this were a realistic situation. Besides, as a lot of people (including myself) have claimed in previous posts, even disregarding morality it wouldn't be good for the animals - and that is what this topic is about, animal welfare.

Panthera Onca
 
Thanks Star, I know I can count on you :)

This topic is here for asking questions and getting answers, not for asking questions to which you clearly already have a set answer for... Essentially you're just ignoring everyone's advice until one person 'has your back.'
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Pretty sure the "I know I can count on you" was probably because Star is practically the only one who isn't being rude to Panthera about their questions. Even if they're not the... best questions, just being rude to him because you think they're dumb questions is pretty rude.
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Anton
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Somebody saying "your combo wouldn't work" with an explanation about why it wouldn't work ≠ "being rude."

In no post (except for maybe >this< one) was anybody ever rude. At most, perhaps some people felt slightly irritated by the fact that they were giving advice yet constantly being ignored or undermined, but I still don't really think anybody was ever 'rude' in the entire discussion.

Also, if you feel someone is being rude or otherwise breaking the rules, feel free to report that post, so the staff can deal with it accordingly.
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Panthera-Onca
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Hi!

I just want unique combinations for my zoo without being judged... I was thinking with some rescued ligers I could integrate one or two into an existing lion pride? :)
Edited by Panthera-Onca, Jan 27 2018, 02:29 PM.
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Fireplume
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No, another terrible idea for the ligers could be bullies towards the lions, and as Anton brought up several times, pretty much would ruin any lion cubs born after.
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Fireplume
Jan 27 2018, 02:34 PM
No, another terrible idea for the ligers could be bullies towards the lions, and as Anton brought up several times, pretty much would ruin any lion cubs born after.
Thanks! What about this combo? I always wanted to make a big cat pride that involves mixed species, including my favorite animal the jaguar :)
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... and completely ruin all chance of a breeding program? While it's not impossible I don't find it particularly morally acceptable.
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