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Painted Vulture?
Topic Started: Jan 18 2017, 11:24 PM (680 Views)
SLGray
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What is the majority view now about the painted vulture: a real species, a mythological creature, or a wrong description of another species.
Edited by SLGray, Jan 18 2017, 11:24 PM.
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the dark phoenix
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King of wonderlandia

Do you mean a bearded or King? IK those guys are pretty colorful and thus look "painted".
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SLGray
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http://www.birdwatchingdaily.com/blog/2013/04/22/floridas-lost-vulture/
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Ignacio
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That just looks like a King vulture.
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Burns
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Just looked around and it appears that many people believe that Bertham did see that colored vulture though the main debate is over what it is. Some people call it an extinct species of vulture (Though if so, wouldn't there be more recent vulture fossils laying around). Other people think it was just a group of king vultures that diverged north.

Personally I believe that there was a group of king vultures that diverged north into Carolina and Florida and lived there during the time Bertham was there. Since king vultures are most susceptible to the cold, one cold year could have wiped the entire (though small) population out.
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Burns
Jan 19 2017, 09:52 AM
Just looked around and it appears that many people believe that Bertham did see that colored vulture though the main debate is over what it is. Some people call it an extinct species of vulture (Though if so, wouldn't there be more recent vulture fossils laying around). Other people think it was just a group of king vultures that diverged north.

Personally I believe that there was a group of king vultures that diverged north into Carolina and Florida and lived there during the time Bertham was there. Since king vultures are most susceptible to the cold, one cold year could have wiped the entire (though small) population out.
Or maybe the King vulture once had a wider range than today, or possibly a northern subspecies? But the changing climate, slowly wiped out the northern birds and those witnessed by Bartram, were amongst the last northern king vultures.
Edited by Ulquiorra, Jan 20 2017, 06:24 AM.
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Could possibly be just like Jaguars, Jaguarundis, Ocelots, and innumerable tropical bird species found in the Southern US (Meaning California to Florida, in the "Sun Belt") that simply people liked to live in these areas, and if king vultures did have a small population it'd be relatively easy to be wiped out, as previously said.

Sadly, of course.
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SLGray
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Since only one was described, could it be that it was a variant of the king vulture?

I mean the same species that live in different climates and biomes sometimes look different.
Edited by SLGray, Jan 21 2017, 06:42 AM.
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Furka
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Topic moved to the correct section.

Anyway, IIRC there are possible fossil remains of a vulture from the same genus from Southern USA, so it is possible that there was a native population that went extinct.
This case reminds me of the Sardinian lynx, also known from just a report but no fossil or historical evidence.
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stargatedalek
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I'm not slow! That's just my moe!

Even if just for the sake of record keeping it should probably be considered as an extinct subspecies.
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