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Advice for a speech about dinosaurs
Topic Started: Mar 8 2017, 11:40 PM (777 Views)
magpiealamode
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No good hero is a one-trick phony.

So for a class I have to give a speech about a topic of my own choosing. I decided to talk about inaccuracies in pop culture portrayals and I wonder what you guys think are the biggest errors are. My thoughts are the lack of feathers, Velociraptor size, and the presentation of things such as Dimetrodon and the pterosaurs as dinosaurs.
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Lgcfm
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This should help: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ArtisticLicensePaleontology
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Acinonyx Jubatus
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Those are some of the most-publicized, yes, but if you're looking for something a little more impactful I'd suggest talking about lack of meaningful education, palaeoart tropes, and art thievery. It's a big, important issue within palaontography, gives reasons for all the inaccuracies you mentioned, and there's been a fair bit written on the topic (Naish, Witton, and Conway all have something to say about it.)
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magpiealamode
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No good hero is a one-trick phony.

Do you think you could provide links?
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magpiealamode
Mar 9 2017, 12:42 AM
Do you think you could provide links?
http://palaeo-electronica.org/content/2014/917-commentary-state-of-the-palaeoart <- peer-reviewed

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/tetrapod-zoology/palaeoart-memes-and-the-unspoken-status-quo-in-palaeontological-popularization/

http://markwitton-com.blogspot.ca/2017/02/scientists-please-pay-more-attention-to.html

There's more out there, but I'm lazy. :P
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magpiealamode
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No good hero is a one-trick phony.

That'll do, thanks.

Anyone else have anything?
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Are you focusing specifically on dinosaurs, or paleontology in general?

Because dinosaurs are only a very small part of what gets bastardized by pop culture. There's much to be said about even things like smilodon and phorusrhacids getting the movie monster treatment. Especially Smilodon. Why does it get turned into some snarling, raggedy furred abomination when we should know better from modern big cats?

If, however, you are focusing on dinosaurs (since this subject can get pretty damn broad otherwise), Hartman's recently posted on his Skeletal Drawings site about new developments on Anchiornis's soft tissue, which suggest that what we've been doing recently out of phylogenetic bracketing and speculation based on modern animals has actually been working. Which is a positive sign of hope and change for the craft.

http://www.skeletaldrawing.com/home/anchiornissofttissue
Edited by Incinerox, Mar 12 2017, 06:57 AM.
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No good hero is a one-trick phony.

I'm sticking with dinosaurs just because I feel that's what people are most familiar with, and I can't be talking for thirty minutes. But yeah I also have a minor heart attack every time I see Smilodon with a mane and stripes.

Thanks for the info!
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magpiealamode
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No good hero is a one-trick phony.

Sorry for double posting, but it's my topic and I need more help..
I've decided to expand my brief lecture to be about paleoart in general. Anyway, in Witton's blog post, he mentions examples of terrible paleoart but neglects to provide links out of courtesy. Could anyone direct me to some of these pieces?
Edit: Specifically, I mean art in scientific publications, not crappy pop art.
Edited by magpiealamode, Mar 25 2017, 07:31 PM.
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This beauty appears on page 50
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I may be wrong, but I heard somewhere that this image was featured in the original 2008 publication describing Mythunga.
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Not a Dinosaur paper but this one looked so bad that I remember posting it in the paleofail topic... Over two years ago:

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(That's supposed to be Procoptodon).

Source: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0109888
Edited by babehunter1324, Mar 26 2017, 05:36 PM.
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No good hero is a one-trick phony.

Jeez Louise these are cancerous. Thanks everyone...
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