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Topic Started: Mar 28 2017, 09:37 AM (990 Views)
Reptileink
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(Feral Designs/DeepSix)

So, I make a habit of checking out people's zoos both here and on Immerse.

I do this because I enjoy looking that them, but I also look to see which of my downloads are being used to gauge what people seem to like. I find that more often than not, I can see an entire zoo with not ONE of my downloads, yet my downloads get pretty good download numbers.

Take for instance my marine rugs. A lot of people raved about them, and I have yet to see one zoo or aquarium using them. Same with my posters, and now the awnings. I know the awnings are newer, but it makes me wonder. If people say my stuff is so useful, and practical, then why do I barely see my downloads in people's show and tells?

I'm sure I'm not the only one this happens to.
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Lgcfm
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The Download Lady

That can't be helped, as a fellow "download maker" who also checks people's zoos waiting to see my creations there, you need to consider that:

a) A majority of people don't share pictures of their games, for every S&T you see, there are probably another 10 people who built a zoo but didn't post any pictures, some only play casually with no big projects etc.

b) When people work on big zoos they usually plan them beforehand, so even if you release something that could fit with the theme it probably won't be used until their next zoo.

c) Something could be useful for a different zoo/situation, for example an aquatic animal (or your marine rugs) can be great when building an aquarium, but won't fit on a regular zoo.

Now I present you real pain:
> Exhibit for X animal that I made
>> Nowhere to be seen
>> "They are not in their exhibit today"
>> Uses 10 year old reskin of BF model instead
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Vigoga
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Well, sometimes they just don't fit the theme of every zoo. Models, textures,...
Sophie's first building sets were extremely useful back then, but now they just don't fit well with the new BS and current standards.
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Sahara
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I feel like most people prefer using foliage rather than objects to decorate their zoos. I usually create city-like zoos so I do use objects, and I have used plenty of yours in the past. The problem is, I don't share it, just as Lgcfm said. It's kind of the same problem as you really, my zoos don't get a lot of attention so I lose interest pretty quickly. It's also hard to compete sometimes when most zoobuilders use a lot of PU objects, and so their zoos look a little more special because they have objects and foliage others don't.

You also have to consider the fact that maybe they just don't like the quality of your work. I'm not saying what you make is bad, but every player has a certain taste, and while they may think the idea of making a certain object is useful, they just don't like the way you made it because it doesn't live up to your standards. An example of this could be the posters you made (which I have seen people use in S&T's btw) and the ones Sophie did. Yours were used in a handful of zoos, but as soon as Sophie released hers, I've seen her posters in every zoo on TRT or on Youtube. I'm not trying to compare works here, I'm just saying it might be that people liked the way she did it better. It also might have to do with the fact that she is more recognized in the community because of her BS.

I guess my advice would be to try to appeal your projects to more people, or really dig in to see what people want and how they want them. (You have the entire wishlist sections where people have left PLENTY of suggestions/nags for designers to make things). You could also try making your own zoos featuring your objects (I believe you did this in the past, no?) which could definitely raise interest. Just try and market your stuff I guess.
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Jannick
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Papua merdeka!

^Following up on this, I feel like the fact that a lot (most?) of your stuff is imported, it might not fit into the general 'aesthetic' of the game, especially the preferred look the community has built, mostly around Sophie's work.
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Thierry Baudet
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I truly believe the major designers have made a kartel just to create a style that makes it much harder for downloads to fit in.

We need to break the designerkartel.
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Tyranachu
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No one is obliged to showcase a designer's downloads, just as no designer is obliged to release them.
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dycki1231
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Just in single case, very single one,marine rugs.
If you really just want people to download your product and show it, in this single object, your selection is really wrong.
This mug can only use in a marine aquarium exhibit because its theme and coloration.
In general, nearly all aquarium existing are for freshwater, in some case it is caused by the wide variety of freshwater aquatic plants like littorial pack and the floating lily. Besides, the marine aquarium is much difficult to made because the marine water is really not looking good in high quality mode or in RR. If you need to keep the quality outside the tank, the tank inside would be that dim and dark. Therefore, some people may have built the aquarium with your mag but they would not show it in the final product as the effect is not that good.

More than that, fish is not hot topic so marine showcase would go to dino theme and that make the decoration go to the Jurassic theme.
Edited by dycki1231, Mar 28 2017, 12:39 PM.
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magpiealamode
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No good hero is a one-trick phony.

A lot of stuff (not just yours) I might download for one or two projects. Then I never use them again and take them out of my game to free up space. That might help explain some of the disconnect?

Also, as Lgcfm mentioned, not every part of every zoo is shown. Case in point: I used your mulch as bedding in a recent set of exhibits, but when I show those exhibits on my S&T, you won't see it cause I feel the indoor enclosures are not strong enough to put up here. So in that case, it really is my issue that you're work isn't being shown.

I did make ample use of your banners, though. I love those banners.
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Reptileink
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I'm not asking people to showcase my designs, just using them is good enough for me. Again, I am not trying to whine or point fingers, but I like seeing what people come up with using my downloads, and again, it gives me ideas for what to make next.

I made the awnings SPECIFICALLY because someone mentioned it in the Where can I find this section, so I do pay attention to what people ask for. Most wishlists are animals.

Even though I import, I feel I make the most sensible items I can. I don't import just to import like some do. Rugs are found in a lot of gift shops, and I know since they are marine, they'd be less used than say, African rugs, but some are just designs that aren't really "marine".

*shrug*
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Furka
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Sometimes I think people just don't need stuff immediately, but they want it released because it means they have it available at least, in case they ever end up needing it.
I myself rarely use extinct animals, but that doesn't stop me from encouraging and being grateful to the people who make them, because it's nice to know there's an item I can use for the game if I ever feel like building something different.
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1) I try to keep most of my downloads looking like they belong in the game, if something doesn't match up to the quality of the rest of things, I don't really like to use them.

Imported Stuff rarely looks like it can fit with the rest of the game, this is also why I didn't use Naru's trees from Skyrim, they looked wonderful but I felt like they wouldn't fit in the game.

2) If it's being hidden behind a post requirement, I'm not going to bother. I'm too busy with other stuff to worry about trying to fiddle around and try to meet someone's specifications.
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dycki1231
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Mar 28 2017, 12:49 PM
I'm not asking people to showcase my designs, just using them is good enough for me. Again, I am not trying to whine or point fingers, but I like seeing what people come up with using my downloads, and again, it gives me ideas for what to make next.

I made the awnings SPECIFICALLY because someone mentioned it in the Where can I find this section, so I do pay attention to what people ask for. Most wishlists are animals.

Even though I import, I feel I make the most sensible items I can. I don't import just to import like some do. Rugs are found in a lot of gift shops, and I know since they are marine, they'd be less used than say, African rugs, but some are just designs that aren't really "marine".

*shrug*
Go made some African and forest rugs and you would see tons of exhibit using it.
It just about preference of people and I think some of your import have a really large color contrast with product thry would attach on.

If you need ideas, I think you should look at the people' exhibit and think what they are missing there. It is more important if we are focusing on importing scenery stuff.

Just like the downloads in my fish stores, all imported fish are nearly become rubbish that I think only Furka is kind hearted enough to collect it but for those minor stuff like that rock or blade tree, they are really famous in " Where can I find this download?" section.
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the dark phoenix
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I noticed the same thing with my pterosaur pack, when one sees a paleo aviary, you'd think it refreshing that there are new pterosaurs and prehistoric birds available... but there is none shown. Do I think they are being used? Probably. Is it personally annoying when no S&T show them? A bit.

Some people look for a certain quality... personally I don't think my DLs fit the bill for some it just might not fit a personal taste of the user. Also depending on a person's computer, we may not be able to do all the bells and whistles.

I get annoyed when my stuff isn't shown as well but you can't force people to show them(Unless you're doing a contest, he he...). People do as they wish and to be honest, I think my Harpactognathus would look ugly in zoos as great as I've seen anyway.
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Mar 28 2017, 01:25 PM
I noticed the same thing with my pterosaur pack, when one sees a paleo aviary, you'd think it refreshing that there are new pterosaurs and prehistoric birds available... but there is none shown. Do I think they are being used? Probably. Is it personally annoying when no S&T show them? A bit.

Some people look for a certain quality... personally I don't think my DLs fit the bill for some it just might not fit a personal taste of the user. Also depending on a person's computer, we may not be able to do all the bells and whistles.

I get annoyed when my stuff isn't shown as well but you can't force people to show them(Unless you're doing a contest, he he...). People do as they wish and to be honest, I think my Harpactognathus would look ugly in zoos as great as I've seen anyway.
Ans:googling zt2 pterosaur pack do not show your stuck in image
yo may need to beg lgcfm to add the page for your pack XD
Edited by dycki1231, Mar 28 2017, 01:46 PM.
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