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| Unnecessary BF animals | |
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| Topic Started: Apr 19 2017, 04:15 PM (2,501 Views) | |
| cougarfan12 | Apr 19 2017, 04:15 PM Post #1 |
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I know there is a similar topic but it is old, so I made a new one In the original pack all seemed accepted but one I do not see as necessary Mountain gorilla: very famous for "King Kong" and some documentaries but not in captivity, a lowland gorilla would be better Snow leopard: should change places with the gray wolf Endangered Species There are some animals that are not even threatened (wolf, fennec fox and bison, Koala and reindeer do not mention them as they now match the game) Fennec: Should change places with the Ethiopian Wolf Gray wolf: the same as the snow leopard American bison: should be a bonus or DLC download or moved to the original pack and replaced by the gaur Giant sable Antelope : Despite being novel for the time, I do not see it as interesting, a Kudu or Hirola would be better or a Californian Condor, with a good history of conservation and would be the only animal of the desert that is not of the Sahara. Javan rhinoceros: not in captivity, because not an Indian or one of sumatran? Wolverine: not threatened, must be moved to the original game as bison African Adventures There are some that I do not see as necessary and others should be moved to other packs Barbary ape: There are many land monkeys in this pack, why not a colobus? Ethiopian Wolf: Same as fennec Masai Giraffe: Is only a subspecies of giraffe, could be at least a variant of the reticulated, and would put an impala Is only a subspecies of giraffe, could be at least a variant of the reticulate, and would put an impala Striped Hyena: A spotted hyena would be better Marine Mania As you can see there are many sharks and cetaceans and some should know that the whale shark is small because he is a teenager and will grow in 2 years (read his zoopedia) and the great white shark will not say and imagine when BF I do not include, Children would be disappointed not to have included it Goblin Shark: only included by the Benthic biome (whale and white shark do not belong there), I think a coelacanth would be better. Short-Finned Pilot Whale: There are many cetaceans in this pack, I would have preferred a marine iguana False Killer Whale: I do not see it as necessary, a reef fish or a sawfish would be in its place Extinct Animals It has the most unnecessary animals, like many theropods and strange animals that I did not know until I play it. Stokesosaurus: is it serious ?, I do not know why he wears glasses and paints, I would have preferred a Spinosaurus Bluebuck: There are already many antelopes from the same family, a Macrauchenia would have been better American Mastodon: I do not understand why they put this and not the mammoth Deinonychus: I never liked the game, a Parasaurolophus was not bad at all Utahraptor: There are many theropods in the game, at least because they did not put a Pteranodon Carnotaurus: There are already many cretaceous animals, because not at least one Allosaurus to hunt the Stegosaurus or recreate the jurassic period Giant Warthog: There is already a boar in the game and I did not know it before playing the game, an Entelodon would have served to put at least one animal of the Oligocene to the game. Protarchaeopteryx: why not Archeopteryx? Giant Camel: it's just the dromedary of the first game with another skin and something overgrown, another choice would have been the Alticamelus or a Sauropodo like the Brachiosaurus Kentrosaurus: there are already Stegosaurus, a Protoceratops or a Camptosaurus were better options Eucladoceros: Why did this and not a Megaloceros? Cave lion: a Homotherium would have replaced it DLC One is a variant is the only unnecessary Black Panther: at least because not a leopard with variants. |
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| Animales | Apr 19 2017, 06:54 PM Post #2 |
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I do agree that some of bf's choices were random and could have been replaced by more interesting animals. Here's my personal list: ZT2: I think they did a good job with the animal selection. I would only change 2 Gemsbok replaced by Caribou aka Reindeer reason: We already have enough african ungulates, zt2 was also lacking european animals. American Beaver replaced by Capybara reason: I'd say the world's largest extant rodent deserves a spot more than a beaver. Also, we could use more south american animals so the Jaguar isn't alone. Endangered Species: This pack was ok, but a lot of the choices weren't all that "endangered" to begin with. I'd replace some of the low risk and vulnerable with endangered or critical animals. Fennec Fox replaced by Island Fox reason: ZT2 has a lot of african animals already even w/o african adventure. Caribou replaced by Saiga reason: I added caribou to the original list. Saiga are a critically endangered ungulate. American Bison replaced by European Bison reason: zt2 is lacking european animals, this species is also more endangered. Gray Wolf replaced by Red Wolf or Ethiopian Wolf reason: A more critically endangered species African Adventure: The whole point of this pack is to show how diverse the fauna of Africa is. They did a good job but they missed out on some unique african animals. Ethiopian Wolf replaced by African Golden Wolf reason: I would've added this to ES instead. Also there is a lack of Egyptian animals in this pack. Caracal replaced by Serval reason: I know the point of this game is to educate kids on new species but, come on. Masai Giraffe replaced by African Penguin reason: Out of all animals in zt2 the Masai Giraffe was the most unnecessary addition. It's only useful in campaign mode since it's cheaper than the reticulated giraffe. A lot of people don't know that there is a species of penguin in africa. This was the perfect opportunity to teach. Nile Monitor replaced by African Rock Python reason: ZT2 really needed at least one snake species. I would've preferred the Green Anaconda or Reticulated Python but they aren't African species. So the Rock Python it is. Bongo replaced by African Grey Parrot reason: Too many large ungulates, also zt2 is lacking high flying birds. Marine Mania: So many missed opportunities in this pack. One of my least favorites. Leatherback Sea Turtle replaced by Salt Water Crocodile reason: This one is just a personal replacement. I missed the saltie from the original zt so why not bring it back? Goblin Shark replaced by Japanese Spider Crab reason: Seriously, no inverts but a bunch of sharks and cetaceans? At least get rid of the goblin shark. False Killer Whale replaced by White Pelican reason: Too many cetaceans and mammals, Not enough sea birds. Blue Marlin replaced by Mola Mola reason: I'd rather have a large, slow swimming, "funny shaped" fish than the Marlin. Extinct Animals: At first I hated this pack, but after some time, I came to appreciate it. Still, there are a few I would replace. Styracosaurus replaced by Amargasaurus reason: We needed a sauropod anyways. Blue Buck replaced by Synthetoceras reason: We already have the Aurochs, Quagga, Thylacine, Warrah, and Dodo to represent animals that went extinct due to human activity. This one was unnecessary. Giant Camel replaced by Paraceratherium reason: The largest land mammal is more deserving of a spot than the Giant Camel. Dwarf Sicilian Elephant replaced by Ouranosaurus reason: More of a personal replacement. Stokeosaurus replaced by Suchomimus reason: Way too many north american dinosaurs, Not enough african ones. Giant warthog replaced by Daeodon reason: Daeodon is way more interesting than a giant warthog. Bonus Downloads: All 5 bonus downloads were mammals which is disappointing. Black Leopard replaced by sri lankan leopard reason: ZT2 had a lot of african animals, might as well turn it into an indian one. Asiatic Black Bear replaced by Reticulated Python reason: like I said before, zt2 needed a snake we already have enough bears as is. |
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| AnimalGenius | Apr 19 2017, 09:01 PM Post #3 |
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Ok so maybe I'm not understanding this correctly but are you guys just complaining and then making suggestions about animals that were in the core game? |
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| cougarfan12 | Apr 19 2017, 09:23 PM Post #4 |
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Is that ZT2 put little known or non-revealing animals or that are not even in captivity or rarely and have chosen animals popular or more frequent in a zoo |
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| AnimalGenius | Apr 19 2017, 09:27 PM Post #5 |
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Just a ZT Youtuber
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Alright gotcha I understand now |
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| Paleodude | Apr 20 2017, 08:39 AM Post #6 |
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Not sure if you knew but Extinct Animals had a rushed development last time I checked meaning they had to reuse a lot to of animations and models. As for the obscure ones like Stokesaurus and the Bluebuck you can at the very least admire Blue Fang for not choosing nothing but the popular Jurassic Park stars for the expansion. It really gives the game a unique feel. |
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| Sahara | Apr 20 2017, 12:21 PM Post #7 |
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I would have been perfectly okay with Extinct Animals, if they had just added a sauropod. Neglecting such an iconic dinosaur really hurt me as a kid, like it physically pained me that we didn't get an apatosaurus or brachiosaurus. We got the brachiosaurus slide but not the actual thing. I'm pretty okay with most of EA's animals, except maybe the Stoke, Protarch, and Giant Warthog. I would have definitely replaced those with more interesting animals, and maybe gotten rid of one of the dromaeosaurids, three was just plain overkill, but an apatosaurus felt like a no-brainer to me. I'm guessing they left it either to save time on animating or because they felt it would be too large for the game, as the brach-slide's zoopedia suggests. The other expansions were pretty good, ZT2 had a pretty solid list, though I would have preferred a canine instead of all the big cats. ES added a lot of animals that felt missing from the original game, canines, tortoises, komodo dragons, koalas...etc but no a lot of these animals are actually endangered. The only animal I would have probably replaced was the caribou, I honestly don't care for it. AA included some nice additions, meerkats and monkeys were long needed. The addition of subspecies such as Masai giraffe and white rhino were fine, maybe they could have added something better, I dunno, but this expansion honestly dissapointed me with how little it added to the game. It's the only expansion, besides dino danger, that does not include any new gameplay features which is kind of annoying. MM was pretty good, but I feel like this one also needed 30 animals like EA. Narrowing it down to twenty and then ONLY choosing porpoises and sharks kind of sucks. False-killer whale, pilot whale, and narwhal all felt pointless. Sawfish, octopi, and moray eels would have been much better choices. The game is still pretty sick though. Crossing my fingers for planet safari. please be real |
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| Ulquiorra | Apr 20 2017, 02:55 PM Post #8 |
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I agree with with this. Although I would also include the giant camel and maybe the gigantopithecus with the giant warthog. I really wasn't a fan of the extinct animals that were pretty much giant clones of the animals already in the game. I would say the same about the deinosuchus as well, but I had always wanted one of those for ages, although all those spikes could've gone. Also a hadrosaur was apparently planned to be in EA, but got scrapped. As for AA, I really think it should've been released as ZT2's first EXP, as you mentioned, apart from animals and a new themed object set, it had a lack of new content. ES I'm fine with and still probably my favourite EXP out the lot. MM, I agree, less cetaceans and sharks more different marine animals, like a cephalopod or another fish (why was the tuna a live prey not an animal, it was certainly big enough) Edited by Ulquiorra, Apr 25 2017, 07:10 AM.
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| stargatedalek | Apr 20 2017, 03:36 PM Post #9 |
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I'm not slow! That's just my moe!
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AA added the content from ES if you didn't have it. |
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| Sahara | Apr 20 2017, 03:58 PM Post #10 |
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Only the jeep tours. |
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| stargatedalek | Apr 20 2017, 08:28 PM Post #11 |
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I'm not slow! That's just my moe!
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And the elevated paths. I don't think it added sky tours, but it did add the base functionality for mods based on them to work without ES at the very least. |
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| ibisperson273 | Apr 20 2017, 09:22 PM Post #12 |
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I agree with most of the stuff on this list but the false killer whale is my favorite MM animal. |
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| Ulquiorra | Apr 25 2017, 07:18 AM Post #13 |
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That's why I said I think it should've been released first. Jeep tours and elevated paths and tutorials regarding them, were included in ES. Following ES, BF could've added more exciting content to AA, no wonder AA got the lowest rating out of the ZT2 games. |
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| Paleodude | Apr 25 2017, 07:49 AM Post #14 |
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Sauropods are tricky for a game like Zoo Tycoon due to their huge size and how big and expensive it would be to make an exhibit for them in challenge mode. Looking at the sauropods we put the in game ourselves they already look a bit cramped in the small map sizes. As for the hadrosaur I thought that was debunked a while back. |
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| Animales | Apr 25 2017, 10:57 AM Post #15 |
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They didn't have to use a large sauropod, they could have gone with a dwarf species at the very least. If they weren't rushed to finish it that is. |
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