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| Similis | Dec 20 2013, 01:13 PM Post #1066 |
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I know it's easier to misrepresent what I said, but no, I'm saing that in case of some christians, disagreeing with someone (lol, disagreeing with the fact that someone was born homosexual - how about disagree that someone was born with blonde hair?) who their view as 'sinners', aka, homosexuals, fabric-mixers etc, often turns into, pretty much, what we consider hate speech. Doesn't matter that from christian point of view something is wrong if it's a perfectly natural, harmless and personal thing.
Many christians don't follow the love part, because it'd block them from discriminating others, your point? Bible also has many points about physical/death punishment for things people do everyday. Not to mention Yahweh going on a rampage and killing innocents. It's there, isn't going anywhere, people are supposed to read it and learn live from it.
The same god supposedly drowned countless living beings in global flood after throwing a fit on his creation being imperfect. The holy book often mentions punishing people for something as trivial as, say, having teenage tantrums and going against one's parents (brutal, by the way). Christianity conveniently avoids most of the passages, but picks the cherries to use against other people, like for example the homosexuality. It's present in nature, it doesn't harm anyone, but there are many who would stone one to death upon finding that the person fell in love with someone of their own sex. People claim it to be religion of love, but will sooner die than admit that it also has a bunch of passages endorsing evil. Your point? I've been in the grip of Christianity for over half of my current life. Been there, done that, I'm better off without it and don't miss a single thing from that experience. The most important message of the Bible that I've learned was "don't think for yourself". Not interested anymore ![]() ![]() Edited by Similis, Dec 20 2013, 01:22 PM.
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| Penny | Dec 20 2013, 01:38 PM Post #1067 |
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u wot mVIII
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As for homosexuals, there have been many that turn from that. I believe they are born that way, but can change given the help of Jesus The Bible is also often taken out of context. Many of t he arguments used against christians come from the old testament, many of which being laws that no longer apply to us. This death that the bible speaks of is what we all deserve, We've all sinned, we all deserve punishment. Think of God as being a court Judge. The criminal has murdered a family in cold blood. What do you think he deserves? Punishment? Or to be let free? We're all criminals in God's eyes and the flood was a result of the world being caught up in sin. If the earth was to be let be, the human race would likely have destroyed itself on its own. I don't have time to continue this, unfortunately, and people will likely get annoyed if we do continue, so i'm just going to leave it at that. In the end, I think everyone has the right to believe what they want,and share their beliefs, without it being called hate speech just because people don't like it. |
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| Iben | Dec 20 2013, 01:42 PM Post #1068 |
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There'll be no foot-walking! Just air-flying!
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Pardon me here, but isn't the whole "homosexuality is wrong" part of the old testament ? So why does it still apply to you while you choose that the others not apply to you any more ? :p |
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| Similis | Dec 20 2013, 01:45 PM Post #1069 |
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Show me a homosexual (not bisexual) who genuinley turned heterosexual with the help of Jesus (doesn't he have better things to do than alter human nature by the way?), and that didn't do it because people surrounding him demanded it and he'd be thrown into the margins of his immediate society. I'm curious. If God is a judge, then, from what the Bible presents, a poor one. Supposedly drowning whole planet because he got pissed at humans is an act of cruelty, am I supposed to draw inspiration from being like this? Nope. No way. That'd be, to me, utterly immoral. Humans are destroying the planet already, on a scale much greater than few thousands of years ago. He didn't even manage to delay anything, from the creationist point of view of course. Still haven't seen a single piece of proof that the story happened, not more than Harry Potter has. ![]()
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| extremos | Dec 20 2013, 01:52 PM Post #1070 |
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Where's Mr Pig?
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I would love to give a like for this post because of that Shrek pic, unhappily I can't because of the second pic, which truly made me feel like pressing the "Report" button, so, Muslims are all errorists who blow themselve sup eh? Didn't you have the slimmest line of thought that Muslims members of this site, who have NOTHING to do with this discussion (Which I think, shouldn't be happening here) wouldn't be offended? Oh, an dmost of that pic's content is repetitive and has no base whatsoever. Also, that post is offensive, VERY offensive, not just to Muslims, but to Atheists too. About Darwin, OF COURSE we believe him, his theory has hundreds of examples, and therefore has got a very strong base, while the Bible is no different from the Quran, from a Chinese Poem or from the Indian Epics, they're all ancient books, wirtten by ancient people, and theree's no reason to think that one of them is any better or more important than the other. Oh and something that really gets me is, in the begging of that pic they say that soemone made a similar list about Christians and that it was highly stereotyped (Something which I hate), however, to make this list they used more stereotypes then what I've seen in my whole life So, I'm not trying to offend anyone, and if someone felt offended please let me know so I may edit my post, I merely wanted to state my views on the previous post |
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| Manakel | Dec 20 2013, 01:56 PM Post #1071 |
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The best way to not get your heart broken, is pretending you don't have one.
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It says FUNDAMENTAL Muslims. and if I pulled back all of the past post about Christianity I would fill like hitting the report button. Edited by Manakel, Dec 20 2013, 02:00 PM.
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| extremos | Dec 20 2013, 01:58 PM Post #1072 |
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Where's Mr Pig?
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Please sorry me if I'm getting a bit off topic here but is it just me or did you sometime ago say you were offended by the atheist-related posts in this area? |
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| CyborgIguana | Dec 20 2013, 02:00 PM Post #1073 |
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While I disagree with him, to be fair: if we can post pics mocking Christians, then I guess Christians can post pics mocking atheists. |
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| extremos | Dec 20 2013, 02:03 PM Post #1074 |
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Where's Mr Pig?
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Yes we can, but I still don't understand why he is being so stereotypical and racist with Muslims... Anyways:
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| Sheather | Dec 20 2013, 02:06 PM Post #1075 |
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Thank you for the set, Azrael!
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Now see, it's great that you post whatever memes made your day. It's just that anti-atheism memes just never make any sense... a lot of that you showed is just plain wrong. And as far as us being "hateful and intolerant" and calling you mean names, that's like saying it's mean to smack the rabid bear that is mauling you and ripping off your legs. -- @Tyranachu - those were hilarious, especially the Ichthyosaurs. I love that guy.
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| Manakel | Dec 20 2013, 02:12 PM Post #1076 |
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The best way to not get your heart broken, is pretending you don't have one.
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To be fair most of the stuff you post about Christians is wrong. |
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| Sheather | Dec 20 2013, 02:17 PM Post #1077 |
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Thank you for the set, Azrael!
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Perhaps for you personally, but not for your religion - it's what the main book clearly says (and whether or not you follow) and what many people do believe/do. But... I don't know of any atheist extremist groups. We have no book. It just, to me, appears ignorant when you post memes that aren't even accurate; it sort of only helps the opposing case. The thing that you seem to be saying most with those memes is "You don't know, therefore God did it." That is a horrible way of thinking. It's just a scapegoat. We don't know, so we will try to find out, but we're fine not knowing yet. To just say "Oh we don't know because God did it!" stifles scientific progress and prevents further learning in favor of ignorance. |
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| Sheather | Dec 20 2013, 02:24 PM Post #1078 |
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Thank you for the set, Azrael!
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Anyway. This will not go anywhere. I suppose we should stop.![]() ^ The one cute and not--evil-and-scary moth. |
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| Manakel | Dec 20 2013, 02:38 PM Post #1079 |
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The best way to not get your heart broken, is pretending you don't have one.
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I agree with that. Now will you guys stop mocking Christianity as a WHOLE? Edited by Manakel, Dec 20 2013, 02:49 PM.
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| jragonizer | Dec 20 2013, 02:41 PM Post #1080 |
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welcome to the jungle
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really? -_- okay, no more of this junk guys, seriously the atheists believe their faith is just as true as the christians believe in their faith. Can everyone just be respectful of that? Christians, you aren't gonna convert anyone here. Period. You just won't, and I don't think God will mind if you don't stand up for him everytime someone mocks him. After all, he's God Dising the atheist life and thought is also counter intuitive and rude. Atheist simply means they don't believe in God but each atheist has his own view on life and it's origin and purpose.Atheists, could you be respectful to the people who believe in a God and in the love of Jesus? They don't claim to be perfect or follow all his rules and they aren't asked to, but I think you should be respectful of them and their God. Since the thing about Phil Robertson started all this, we can have a topic in the discussion where we can respectfully discuss the situation but this should be the last post regarding the current discussion on this thread. edit: was ninjad
Edited by jragonizer, Dec 20 2013, 02:42 PM.
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Dising the atheist life and thought is also counter intuitive and rude. Atheist simply means they don't believe in God but each atheist has his own view on life and it's origin and purpose.