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The Official Zoo Designers Hangout; discuss anything relevant to making Zoos
Topic Started: Mar 2 2013, 10:01 PM (176,045 Views)
Ignacio
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Well you can try combining species that live in the same area in the wild. For example: wildebeest, impala, ellipsean waterbuck, topi, great kudú, nyala, sable antelope, common eland, bosbok... all those antelopes lived in the Kruger's National Park for example, so combining any of this will be fine i think... you can combine the ones whose biomes match. Hope i could help :)
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Ignacio
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Guys what southamerican fishes would be ok to put in a yacaré exhibit? I know yacaré would eat any fish that is in there, i just want to add them for the underwater viewing :P
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MakiCatta
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I really have no idea of which fishes can coexist with yacares ... They're usually kept with no fish in zoos :p But maybe you can put some underwater foliage to add colour to your underwater view :)
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Ignacio
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Yeah i already add a lot of underwater foliage and i use German13 amazonian victoria, but in zoos sometimes they add fishes in the water too, like in this pic:

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The problem is... i have absolutly no idea about fishes xD So i don't know which species avaible for download are southamerican fishes and which are not valuable species that can be put in a tank with a caiman that could (and probably will) eat them xD I need a fish that is common to use as live food, but it has to be southamerican xD

Note to myself: STOP USING THAT STUPID EMOTICON WHEN IS NOT NECESARY! :p
Edited by Ignacio, May 6 2013, 06:07 PM.
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MakiCatta
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OK, so I have no idea :p Maybe you could ask to Furka, he seems to know fishes better then anyone else ;)
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Dragonfire
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IDK what should I do ! Should I make the entrances simple or go ahead and make it complicated ?
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Ignacio
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I personally don't like building very complex entrances, i think keeping the style simple but adding something original to it is a good idea. You should check the entrance that Maki make for his zoo. They are very inspirational.

Another thing i like when building an entrance is to make like an area around the entrance with a gift shop and an info booth.
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Dragonfire
May 6 2013, 09:23 PM
IDK what should I do ! Should I make the entrances simple or go ahead and make it complicated ?
Lets see I'll give you a list of things.

How much money does your zoo have? Are the exhibits large and some indoors? Do you have exotic and rare animals? If so your zoo likely has enough money to make it more complicated.

What biome is your zoo in? Each biome and location really require a different entrance. Wetlands I'd go for a more swampy feeling maybe a river and lakes nearby with a sign and some vines on the building. Europe you can incorporate a bit of an older feel that reflects the European culture. That is not a must though. Tropical is similar to wetlands but have denser foliage and less water with a less fancy building. United States and rich should be a big building with a fancy roof. If you do a fancy roof though make sure to include proper poles and walling to keep the roof up. If there is a 90 degree corner _| like that on the roof you'll need support to keep it holding up. If in America and poor something as simple as an arch with a wall that's got info on it could be great. If in-between a not to detailed building would be good.
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May 6 2013, 06:14 PM
OK, so I have no idea :p Maybe you could ask to Furka, he seems to know fishes better then anyone else ;)
oh, you're overestimating me ! :3

i would say arapaimas are a good choice, as they are too big for the caimans. pacus could also work, considering caimans in zoos are ususally well fed so they don't have to attack the other animals. you could also make a barrier in the tank with logs or rocks and place the caimans on one side and some fish like arowanas and stingrays on the other.

now my question: do you think it's safe to keep egyptian vultures and griffons in the same exhibit ?
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May 7 2013, 12:28 AM
Dragonfire
May 6 2013, 09:23 PM
IDK what should I do ! Should I make the entrances simple or go ahead and make it complicated ?
Lets see I'll give you a list of things.

How much money does your zoo have? Are the exhibits large and some indoors? Do you have exotic and rare animals? If so your zoo likely has enough money to make it more complicated.

What biome is your zoo in? Each biome and location really require a different entrance. Wetlands I'd go for a more swampy feeling maybe a river and lakes nearby with a sign and some vines on the building. Europe you can incorporate a bit of an older feel that reflects the European culture. That is not a must though. Tropical is similar to wetlands but have denser foliage and less water with a less fancy building. United States and rich should be a big building with a fancy roof. If you do a fancy roof though make sure to include proper poles and walling to keep the roof up. If there is a 90 degree corner _| like that on the roof you'll need support to keep it holding up. If in America and poor something as simple as an arch with a wall that's got info on it could be great. If in-between a not to detailed building would be good.
Thanks CRG and zoocrazy :) ! Apparently , I'm having Artist's Block so it may take a while ...
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Ignacio
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Furka
May 7 2013, 03:26 AM
MakiCatta
May 6 2013, 06:14 PM
OK, so I have no idea :p Maybe you could ask to Furka, he seems to know fishes better then anyone else ;)
oh, you're overestimating me ! :3

i would say arapaimas are a good choice, as they are too big for the caimans. pacus could also work, considering caimans in zoos are ususally well fed so they don't have to attack the other animals. you could also make a barrier in the tank with logs or rocks and place the caimans on one side and some fish like arowanas and stingrays on the other.

now my question: do you think it's safe to keep egyptian vultures and griffons in the same exhibit ?
Thanks Furka, although i was looking for a more "decorative" fish... i already plan on using the fish you mention for when i build my Amazonian aquarium in the future. The exhibit is about the yacares so i don't really need the fish to be an attraction, just an "ambient" item type of thing. Maybe i will use JH minnows again like i did in the otter exhibit and pretend that are random small southamerican river fishes :P

About the vultures, they share a similar distribution range in the wild, so i guess is ok if you want too (although i don't know how agressive the birds could be against other birds). But just because of the fact that both are amazing birds on its own, i would make an exhibit/aviary for every species.
Edited by Ignacio, May 7 2013, 09:32 AM.
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aggressivity is what i'm mostly concerned about, but i'll probably end up making an aviary for each own like you said.

and for the fish, you could use some of the Tetras Thom made, they should be too small to be noticed by the caimans but will add some colour to the exhibit.

and now another question, i'm making a Parrot house made of many indoor-only aviaries, should i give the animals an off-show area too ? most of them are small parakeets but i may add a cockatoo or 2 if i feel like
Edited by Furka, May 7 2013, 04:37 PM.
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Ignacio
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Yes i think i will use some tetras, you are right (now i have to get some tetras lol)

And yes, i will add a little off-show area for the aviaries, like a place from where zookeepers can have access to the jails
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Orcas . Do I need to explain ?

I'm apparently having trouble with stairs on hills ... Is there any tutorial I can follow ^_^ ?
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Ignacio
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yeah, actually is right here in TRT : http://w11.zetaboards.com/The_Round_Table/topic/8547523/1/#new
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