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What annoys you most?; Rant here if you need to!
Topic Started: Mar 3 2013, 08:45 AM (309,723 Views)
Mathius Tyra
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Sheather
Oct 29 2013, 09:34 PM
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Every single aspect of this.

Ignoring completely the horrible text and the fact this is directed at impressionable children as fact, the (bald) raptor has its sickle claw on the inner toe on one foot and the outer on the other.
Oh! Really! I never known that before!

*Turn to a Deinonychus.*

Hey, Donny! Can't make me a glass of lemonade?

*Deinonychus stares back oddly.*

Come on! This book tell me you can do it! It's very reasonable and correct!

*Head got shreded into pieces and all internal organs are dragged out and tossed around by the angry Dromaeosaur after it saw the book.*
Edited by Mathius Tyra, Oct 30 2013, 05:41 AM.
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Jules
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And those poor dinosaurs have broken wrists D:
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TheZooTycooner14
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The extreme obsession some people have with realistic dinosaurs, to the very tiniest detail.
Not at all thinking of anyone in particular here. It just bothers me when I see a drawing or animation or something of a dinosaur that I think looks amazing, but then someone comments saying, "Oh, but it's one feather too short!" or, "It's spike is in the wrong place!"

I haven't actually seen those specific comments anywhere, but you get my point. :P In the end, does it really matter that much? I think dino's are amazing, but they're gone now (excluding birds, crocs etc. obviously) so I don't think such minor details are really important in the grand scheme of things, when the main point is to just enjoy the dinos in artwork or in games or whatever. Obviously it's different if you're someone actually researching them for science, but if you're just a member here who likes dino's because they're cool, maybe give it a little bit of a break. :P
I also appreciate realism greatly, but not to the extent that some dinosaur people take it.

For example (I don't know much about recent dino discoveries) but I saw someone post that Spinosaurus is believed to no longer have a sail? And that person commented about a game or movie of some sort that still depicted a Spino with a sail, saying they didn't like it. But, I mean, the spino looks freaking amazing with a sail, and it was an old game/movie anyways, so you can't judge it for giving Spino a sail since that's what was believed to be true at the time.

So yeah. Just enjoy what's there, don't be so picky. :P
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CyborgIguana
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I agree with you for the most part. I can enjoy dinosaurs in fictional movies, shows, books, and games no matter how they're presented (well, as long as they still look aesthetically pleasing, not like the disjointed monsters in that book). But for documentaries and other scientific works I really think dinosaurs should be portrayed accurately, at least in respect to the knowledge of the time the work was created (Walking with Dinosaurs is a good example, it may be outdated now but it was on the cutting edge of paleontology in 1999). BTW I think this argument belongs in the "what annoys you about paleontology" topic.
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I agree for the most part. If it was produced for entertainment or it is old then I can forgive palaeontological errors (although not so much that it's barely recognisable). WWD is outdated, but it's still more or less regarded as the best Dinosaur Documentary ever made. I don't mind that the raptors don't have feathers or that Tropeognathus was called Ornithocheirus, because what you said is true; those discoveries just weren't known yet.

The thing that I don't agree on however, is when documentaries or art (that are meant to be realistic) being produced now are not realistic. If these people are going to try and reconstruct an extinct creature and present it publicly (especially in documentaries, which leave impressions on more people) they should aim to make it as accurate as possible. If we know for sure the spike placement of an animal (as sometimes it can be speculatory because the skeleton was found disarticulated etc.) or any other feature then surely they should show it as such? Let me give an example. Say in 500 years the Black Rhinoceros has gone extinct, and a 'future artist' wanted to draw one. Would you not be annoyed if the artist put the horn on its back, despite the evidence of photographs and videos that their horns were on their faces?

With extinct animals, the fossils are the equivalent of photographs, they're the only thing that can say anything about the animals that used to roam our planet. Ignoring them because we don't like how that changes the animal in our minds is not truly scientific.

(This only applies to what is meant to be realistic, JP, JP fanart and other Dinosaur movies or games where the aim was clearly not to have dinosaurs realistically portrayed do not count)
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Flower
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It annoys me very much, whenever my exams go on non-stop. I just need a break after giving one of them ! xD xD xD xD xD
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Furka
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i'm annoyed by the fact i am very careful when handling a pike, because of that death trap that is their mouth, and then i end up cut by their gills ...
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Dr. Hax
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Last time I checked, humps and sails are sorta being lumped into this weird mixed up mish-mash, with illustrations like this:
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Ignacio
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That is more or less how i pictured a Spinosaurus when i think of one. I don't really care if it is accurate enough or not.
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zoocrazy
Oct 30 2013, 02:20 PM
That is more or less how i pictured a Spinosaurus when i think of one. I don't really care if it is accurate enough or not.
I generally think of the Spino in ZT1 when I imagine them. :P
It was one of my favorite animals to have when building an extinct zoo.
(I hate that rendition, Dr. Hax. xD he looks a little fugly and goofy)

You all have good points, though. I agree that dinosaurs should be represented as accurately as possible with scientific books/programs etc. My main complaint is just about the pickyness within the community for the most part, for example, when someone decides they don't like a dinosaur render/pic simply because it doesn't have feathers, or they only point out the scientific flaws in an extinct download that someone made without giving any praise for the good things. Or in extreme instances, flame-wars and arguments over whether or not a specific specie had a particular feature. It just seems silly to me. :P

Not that this happens very often. It just bugs me when it does.
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Jules
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To me that's a hump xD
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Oct 30 2013, 02:34 PM
To me that's a hump xD
Yeah, I don't like it. xD
It just seems like a mesh of the two things and very undefined. I'd like a nice, big, pretty sail, please. :3 Preferably with a green colour scheme for the whole animal as opposed to brown.

Just to stay on topic: Getting sick at very inconvenient times annoys me. :P I have a midterm and a test tomorrow as well as a medical appointment in toronto (7 hour bus ride away) the day after, and i'm getting a cold. Not fun.
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Ignacio
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TheZooTycooner14
Oct 30 2013, 02:34 PM
You all have good points, though. I agree that dinosaurs should be represented as accurately as possible with scientific books/programs etc. My main complaint is just about the pickyness within the community for the most part, for example, when someone decides they don't like a dinosaur render/pic simply because it doesn't have feathers, or they only point out the scientific flaws in an extinct download that someone made without giving any praise for the good things. Or in extreme instances, flame-wars and arguments over whether or not a specific specie had a particular feature. It just seems silly to me. :P

Not that this happens very often. It just bugs me when it does.
I does happen quite often actually. I just keep my dinosaurs drawings for my self now xD I don't want people tear them apart because they are not completly accurate.
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zoocrazy
Oct 30 2013, 02:39 PM
TheZooTycooner14
Oct 30 2013, 02:34 PM
You all have good points, though. I agree that dinosaurs should be represented as accurately as possible with scientific books/programs etc. My main complaint is just about the pickyness within the community for the most part, for example, when someone decides they don't like a dinosaur render/pic simply because it doesn't have feathers, or they only point out the scientific flaws in an extinct download that someone made without giving any praise for the good things. Or in extreme instances, flame-wars and arguments over whether or not a specific specie had a particular feature. It just seems silly to me. :P

Not that this happens very often. It just bugs me when it does.
I does happen quite often actually. I just keep my dinosaurs drawings for my self now xD I don't want people tear them apart because they are not completly accurate.
Yeah that's one of my fears about drawing dino's too. xD
I've considered really getting into drawing dinosaurs in the past, but never really went for it (mainly because i'm lazy :P ). If I did, it would be some of my most criticized pieces by far. :P
(especially since i'm old school and generally don't appreciate feathers on my dinos, except for raptors perhaps. :3 )
Edited by TheZooTycooner14, Oct 30 2013, 02:41 PM.
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Sheather
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Thank you for the set, Azrael!

I really hate when I say several times a drawing is only for fun and I still get attacked about it.

"DINOSAURZ HAD FLUFFEH FINGERZ; WHY YOU GIVE THAT PTEROSAUR HIDEOUS SCABBY HANDZ AND BURN OFF ITS FUR". >.>

BECAUSE IT LOOKED COOL. I'm not doing paleoart for education, I'm doodling for fun.
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