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The Hexagon Sun [Manu Interview]; Community Thoughts
Topic Started: Jun 8 2013, 05:32 PM (18,874 Views)
UmbreonShadow
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The Hexagon Sun was originally established from ZTV and Northern Skies back in the Spring of 2012 and then to Gaia in the Summer of 2012.

The blog is made for the analysis and discussion on community matters. It's original intent was to critique and explain the events occurring in the community that may or is it causing parasitic strain in the community. It is also analyzed in the classic community sense.

I will be posting some raw, classic works from the past and perhaps eventually I may start posting new content. :)

The Forgotten Establishments
 
Authors Note: This post was made during a time of distraught between two forums and when many designers began to walk away from Northern Skies among the download controversy. This is my opinion about the " download community " and older forums that stressed less of the entire " download " nature of the community.

This blog post was made back in April of 2012 on Northern Skies and Zoo Tycoon Volcano


In this day and age in the so called " community " ,many forums have been forgotten. Forums that modern community members don't even know about or would disregard as outdated. Even forums that poured the concrete for the foundation of the community and the designing breakthroughs. It is an unfortunate truth that goes by everyday.

With today's forums, only a few stand alive, Northern Skies being the most active. But the question is, how did they get to that status? They could not have done it by themselves without the ideas and people branching off of several forums that were once popular themselves, including ones that bear on.

What is saddening, is that these former forums are not talked about or even brought up to the table, as partners, friends or even a given a thank you! But instead people just migrate to what appeals to them the most, and that is what is of stressed high demand: Downloads.

But was this community founded on the ideas of " Downloads " ?, clearly if it was we would be called the " Download Community " (which we could say that is the case today) rather then the " Zoo Tycoon Community ". And the truth is, it's not. But why?

Forums in the past found it unappealing that the main focus of the community revolved around " Downloads " and the game itself because they knew it would become boring and repetitive after a while, so they experimented with other methods to socialize and expand cultural and educative awareness due to the high rate of international members joining into the community. But it wasn't because of the " Downloads ", it was because they wanted to have fun!

I usually like to use Zoo Tek Phoenix as a prime example of originality of the community. Not only did they supplied downloads and great designing tutorials to help inspire curious newcomer designers but they also knew that in order to continue to be popular and diverse, they needed more diverse sections for everybody to enjoy.

Zoo Tek Phoenix was one of the first forums to host a arcade for gaming, the first site to have a special forum where staff from other forums can come to discuss inter site issues and to have an Ambassador Program themselves and for staff to discuss forum news going on in the community. They also wanted to expand the knowledge of animals and there habits to a younger audience that may not even get to learn at a first hand
by having there own zoologist Professor Paul and his Nature Encyclopedia!. They also encourage creativity and culture diversity by having special seasonal events based on different cultures, the list can go on on how superior there system of fun is compared to ours.

But sadly, they are not the most popular forum (activity wise), but they are a pure legend and a prime example of a real element of the community, along with many of the forums you see listed on the top of each page you go to on ZTV that have given there time and effort to make this community what it was.* Unfortunately that spirit is diminishing with the inflation of downloads and lack of community spirit coming from some forums. We should reflect on these legends.


* ZTV back in 2011 to 2012 had established many affiliations in attempt to unite the community.
Edited by UmbreonShadow, Aug 27 2013, 03:39 PM.
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Murdock129
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If I remember correctly, yes I was the one to promote Manu (it was either me or Kayla, I think I did it but my memory isn't the best in the world). It was nice to hear from him again, as it always is when it comes to our old friends from Environ (well those we are still on good terms with anyway).

It's also kinda refreshing to see someone who doesn't mince their words when it comes to the aspects of the community they hate(d) and are willing to state what they think of certain sites and actions taken in the past instead of needing to spend the whole time worrying about if they will offend

Good interview, always looking forward to reading more
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Militant
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I believe so as well. I wholeheartedly agree with his answer to the 5th question. Promoting staff should be about merit. That's something a lot of forums don't integrate, which usually causes their downfall.
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Biz
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wrong thread
Edited by Biz, Aug 28 2013, 12:24 AM.
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I kinda feel a little nice that he believes that we promoted properly at Environ. The base staff was from Caldera. It's also refreshing to see someone not care about speaking his mind.
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Sorry to bump an old topic, but I would be interested what happened when Northern skies fell and this site begun and a history of ZTABC would be interested. also the early history with the offical site, zoo admin and Silestian Tomcat is worth investigating 9incase you wondering, tomcat was one of the first, if not the first fan mod making ZT2 Designer). even today, history with this fandom is being made, Zoo Tek Pheionix's community has been found to still be active and it has been decided that much lurking before first contact is needed. also new sites like Pangea and Pacific ice are coming up and the ZT Xbox reboot has been announced. I just hope this fandom lasts at least another five years, with different sites for differrent needs and none of the corruption that happened at environ or zoo tycoon volcano ever happens again. let us continue the day at the zoo with our friends before we walk away form a decade old game.
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Zoo Admin was not the offical website. The official ZT2 forums were the official website. Zoo Admin was the first and largest fan-made website, and fragmented into Zoo Tycoon Unleashed and Zoo Tek Phoneix and maybe one or two others. And they were not ZT2 forums, they were forums for the original ZT:CC game, they just added ZT2 sections when the game was released. Penguinman, Silesian Tomcat and a few others like them and csleesburg and such were the first designers for ZT2.
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Sorry for my misinformation, I knew of the original forums. and I must acknowledge penguinman, of whom I still use some of his mods today and have withstood the test of time. I also know about the fact they were for the original also.
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The first ZT2 designer, I think, was Spin, who created a brown bear.
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