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| What annoys you about paleontology?; Rant on about moronic theories, complaints, or just animals that annoy you. | |
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| Topic Started: Sep 28 2013, 05:04 PM (256,490 Views) | |
| Similis | Oct 6 2013, 03:00 PM Post #151 |
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You know, most people wouldn't probably even get many examples from modern day world, so I can understand the teacher's position to some extent. Remember that large portion of the population has a trouble differentating one wild animal from another, let alone getting a grip on what did a prehistoric one prey upon.
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| Sheather | Oct 6 2013, 03:04 PM Post #152 |
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Thank you for the set, Azrael!
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My mom. All big cats are tigers except for cheetahs... which are leopards. (off topic but true and... not something I can understand) |
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| CyborgIguana | Oct 6 2013, 03:40 PM Post #153 |
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I'm annoyed when someone who knows that pterosaurs aren't dinosaurs tries to sound smart by calling them flying lizards. Yes, they're not dinosaurs, but flying lizards isn't much better. Probably worse, in fact, since lizards aren't even archosaurs!
Edited by CyborgIguana, Oct 6 2013, 03:41 PM.
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Oct 6 2013, 04:28 PM Post #154 |
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Well they kinda are but but archosaurs are still reptiles descended from lizards who came from amphibians who came from fish who came from slimy slug like creatures. But yeah i have to admit it is kinda not right, their giant flying archosaurs. Does that sound better? Because flying lizards sound better that or their what inspired the Wyverns of myth and legend. Because I rather call them Wyverns instead of lizards when I do it. |
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| CyborgIguana | Oct 6 2013, 04:47 PM Post #155 |
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Archosaurs are descended from lizard-like creatures, true, but not actual lizards. Lizards are just as derived as archosaurs and evolved from different ancestors. |
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| DinoBear | Oct 7 2013, 08:30 PM Post #156 |
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It annoys me that almost every piece of dinosaur media shows female theropods (mostly tyrannosaurids) being larger than males and stating it as fact, despite the fact that we have very little evidence of that being the case. It would be fine if only some shows did this, but pretty much everything under the sun shows females being the larger of the two. Dinosaur Revolution is the only thing from media that inverted this trope, off of the top of my head. |
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Oct 7 2013, 08:32 PM Post #157 |
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I hate how biased opinions can have an effect on paleontology, like the bias that because Archaeopteryx was originally, it is considered a bird even though there are PLENTY of species just as if not more bird-like than Archaeopteryx that are not considered members of aves. Wellnhoferia, considered Archaeopteryx's closest relative, has a sickle claw for crying out loud! There's a big 30 million year or so gap between Archaeopteryx and the appearance of anything else considered a bird, too.
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| Sheather | Oct 7 2013, 08:39 PM Post #158 |
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I would personally consider all maniraptors to be birds. But "birds" isn't even really a class; birds are all just highly derived reptiles. |
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Oct 7 2013, 08:42 PM Post #159 |
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As in the class Aves. |
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| Sheather | Oct 7 2013, 08:44 PM Post #160 |
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Yes. I would think all maniraptors should be in the class Aves; they only really differ in having teeth (some 'birds' had teeth also, however), more tail vertebrae, and more functioning arms. Basically I am agreeing with you. Sort of. I consider Archaeopteryx a bird, but I also would consider all of its relatives birds too. |
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Oct 7 2013, 09:00 PM Post #161 |
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Dromaeosaurids and Troodontids are in the clade Paraves along with Aves.
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| Furka | Oct 8 2013, 02:23 AM Post #162 |
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not sure if it's related, but the fact i can't remember dinosaur names as once. the other day i found out about this Spanish Rebbachisaur but i don't remember it's name ... |
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| CyborgIguana | Oct 8 2013, 09:51 AM Post #163 |
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Agreed. The only reason this is the case is because of Sue, and we don't even know whether or not she's even a female! Though I wouldn't rule it out as a possibility, I'm just annoyed because of how consistently it's portrayed despite the fact that there's no evidence for it. There's no reason it couldn't have been the case. This is the case with birds of prey, after all! But yes, it's persistence in media is annoying. Even works that I otherwise hold high respect for hold the "females are bigger and stronger than males" portrayal: such as Jurassic Park (the Big One), WWD (the female tyrannosaur in Death of a Dynasty), and Raptor Red (the titular character).
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Oct 8 2013, 01:07 PM Post #164 |
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Actually male birds being larger is the exception, not the norm. |
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| Sheather | Oct 8 2013, 02:47 PM Post #165 |
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I'd think that since it's most commonly the way modern birds are, and theropodal dinosaurs are most closely related to birds, it would be a fairly valid hypothesis to make the females larger, even though there is no direct evidence per se. |
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There's a big 30 million year or so gap between Archaeopteryx and the appearance of anything else considered a bird, too.

