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What annoys you about paleontology?; Rant on about moronic theories, complaints, or just animals that annoy you.
Topic Started: Sep 28 2013, 05:04 PM (256,486 Views)
CyborgIguana
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extremos
Oct 9 2013, 07:01 PM
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Gotta believe this kinda helps... :P
Yeah, that's closer to what the public thinks without totally overblowing it like I did with my sketch. xD
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extremos
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Where's Mr Pig?

CyborgIguana
Oct 9 2013, 07:02 PM
extremos
Oct 9 2013, 07:01 PM
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Gotta believe this kinda helps... :P
Yeah, that's closer to what the public thinks without totally overblowing it like I did with my sketch. xD
Not to count the tail isn't showing :P
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Furka
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but that's an animated movie, people aren't supposed to take that seriously.
i didn't take TLBT seriously when i was a kid (although i thought all dinos lived together ...)
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extremos
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Where's Mr Pig?

Furka
Oct 9 2013, 07:05 PM
but that's an animated movie, people aren't supposed to take that seriously.
i didn't take TLBT seriously when i was a kid (although i thought all dinos lived together ...)
Well that's right but I was just giving an example.
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CyborgIguana
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Random guy: Hey, you know what's a lame dinosaur? The pterodactyl! Ha ha ha!
*Hatzegopteryx gallops up, chomps him, and flies away*
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although not exactly paleontology, i'm annoyed by how underrated "Herbivore" dinosaurs are in games, Triceratops being the only exception. i know people just love to shoot raptors, t-rexes and pteranodons, but wouldn't it be nice to have something like driving through a herd of stampeding hadrosaurs, or watching sauropods in the background, or having stegosaurs wandering around the map that look harmless but can kill you if you get too close to the thagomizer ?
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the dark phoenix
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King of wonderlandia

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darwinopterus, I win this debate
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Sheather
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Thank you for the set, Azrael!

extremos
Oct 9 2013, 07:04 PM
CyborgIguana
Oct 9 2013, 07:02 PM
extremos
Oct 9 2013, 07:01 PM
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Gotta believe this kinda helps... :P
Yeah, that's closer to what the public thinks without totally overblowing it like I did with my sketch. xD
Not to count the tail isn't showing :P
It's also, probably accidentally, got sort-of-accurate wings. :(
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Furka
Oct 9 2013, 07:12 PM
although not exactly paleontology, i'm annoyed by how underrated "Herbivore" dinosaurs are in games, Triceratops being the only exception. i know people just love to shoot raptors, t-rexes and pteranodons, but wouldn't it be nice to have something like driving through a herd of stampeding hadrosaurs, or watching sauropods in the background, or having stegosaurs wandering around the map that look harmless but can kill you if you get too close to the thagomizer ?
Yeah that would be nice to see. Primal Carnage used to have Brachiosaurus in the background of the map Ruthless, but they seem to have gone missing.

In fact, herbivores are often underrated in dinosaur media in general, not just video games. Hadrosaurs apparently can't defend themselves from dromaeosaurs hundreds of times smaller than them. I would love to see a documentary that shows a herd of hadrosaurs (or just one of the super giants, like Shantungosaurus) trample a tyrannosaur or some other theropod that attacked the group.
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Agreed. Raptors didn't even prey on hadrosaurs in real life! They were specialists of small prey and hunted alone, they weren't pack hunters that took on herbivores many times their size as is commonly depicted. :/
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Dr. Hax
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CyborgIguana
Oct 9 2013, 09:52 PM
Agreed. Raptors didn't even prey on hadrosaurs in real life! They were specialists of small prey and hunted alone, they weren't pack hunters that took on herbivores many times their size as is commonly depicted. :/
I don't think it's fair to say that all dromaeosaurs hunted alone. I think it's fairer to say that pack hunting was the exception, not the rule, and even then the ones that did hunt in packs only hunted juveniles.
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CyborgIguana
Oct 9 2013, 09:52 PM
Agreed. Raptors didn't even prey on hadrosaurs in real life! They were specialists of small prey and hunted alone, they weren't pack hunters that took on herbivores many times their size as is commonly depicted. :/
Tell that to the dino fanboys on YT and you'll be violently murdered within an hour or so.

People really seem to forget that most, if not all animals, don't hunt to bring down the largest of the prey species like we do - we're even responsible for the evolution in some species, where the 'unnatural' human selection (well we're part of nature too, just many times the awfully destructive one) produces generations of species that are consequently smaller or have smaller 'trophy' parts. Animals go for the kill that they perceive as possible. We won't see a cheetah running after an adult buffalo. Or a falcon tackling a moose. The only extinct herbivores that some people think are capable of defense are the ones with heavy armour or visible weapons, minus maybe gargantuan size.
Edited by Similis, Oct 10 2013, 12:55 AM.
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Iben
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There'll be no foot-walking! Just air-flying!

The thing what annoys me a lot lately is that we seem to have forgot that fossilization is a very rare process. Even though we've found a vast amount of fossils, people still tend to forget that in order to fossilize you need the right conditions, and those don't happen every time. Which means that we probably will never find all animals that lived and we can't make good conclusions based on the amount of fossils we have. It's been said that pterosaurs were dying out near the end of the Cretaceous, but frankly this might just be because the fossil record is poor...

That and the fact that people think we can always determine the habitat of an animal. Like Irritator. We've only found a handful of skeletons, but still people will say it most certainly lived near the coast and would probably even swim and hunt in the sea. That's total nonsense, we don't know whether it just died there or lived there full time, etc.

And third, the whole "ew you used grass in your S&T" or "omg, how could people be so stupid to use grass in their dinosaur documentary". While actually, in 2005 ( 8 years ago !! ), there was a study published that grass was already widespread during the Cretaceous and that several dinosaur species actually did eat grass.
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Iben
Oct 10 2013, 03:13 AM
The thing what annoys me a lot lately is that we seem to have forgot that fossilization is a very rare process. Even though we've found a vast amount of fossils, people still tend to forget that in order to fossilize you need the right conditions, and those don't happen every time. Which means that we probably will never find all animals that lived and we can't make good conclusions based on the amount of fossils we have. It's been said that pterosaurs were dying out near the end of the Cretaceous, but frankly this might just be because the fossil record is poor...

That and the fact that people think we can always determine the habitat of an animal. Like Irritator. We've only found a handful of skeletons, but still people will say it most certainly lived near the coast and would probably even swim and hunt in the sea. That's total nonsense, we don't know whether it just died there or lived there full time, etc.

And third, the whole "ew you used grass in your S&T" or "omg, how could people be so stupid to use grass in their dinosaur documentary". While actually, in 2005 ( 8 years ago !! ), there was a study published that grass was already widespread during the Cretaceous and that several dinosaur species actually did eat grass.
Agreed, I am currently writing a dinosaur related narrative (not a film) focusing on someone who got lost in a very poorly known part of the mezozoic (Santonian eastern North america) and as a result i get some freedom with what lives there, okay not quite Terra nova levels but still a considerable degree, porcupine quilled small cerotopsians that occupied the neiche of pigs, snow leopard neiche holding pterosaurs and other Ideas.
Also in my Dinodoom series, grass was only used in the Indian and madagascan locations, india known to have grass at that time.
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Megaraptorking
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I stand in the shadows waiting for you to return me to the light.

Wait.... The Cretaceous has grass? Learning something everyday lol. But usually to calm the people who scream about dinosaurs not having grass I use ferns, well when I did make S&Ts I did. Because if not some people once got on me for using grass by accident when I meant to use tall and thin ferns I had in my thing... Ah people being fools, then not to mention that people insulted other people's work I had used in the S&T for the models looking goofy or something when that was the best I had got and they are a good designer.

Oh well but anyways like Dr.Hax said there should be a few dromeosauirds who hunted in packs if not like wolves they might have been like crows or komodo dragon swarms...

But yeah I find it sad so many games with dinosaurs have so few herbivore threats. However only seem to have one game to have killer herbivores for a realism effect was Carnivores who had then able to kill you, however outdated they may have looked they still showed never to mess with a dinosaur carnivore, herbivore, or otherwise... I mean if there was a game where you can be a dinosaur with anybody else like a online world sort of and you acted, moved, and lived like a dinosaur from a list of them for different server types and such they should have herbivore classes also right I mean each dinosaur has abilities, especially the fact that a hadrosaur can use their sound blasting nostrils to blind or knock out carnivores.
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