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What annoys you about paleontology?; Rant on about moronic theories, complaints, or just animals that annoy you.
Topic Started: Sep 28 2013, 05:04 PM (256,485 Views)
Furka
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i think the sound-blasting theory was disproven ...
and i'd love a game like that, despite i know there will be plenty of n00bs that will play as giant theropods and go around killing other players just for the fun of ruining their game.
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Megaraptorking
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Well really anything with a loud amount of noise can get a very high and painful sound that can cause ears to bleed. It would like you hearing twenty people at the top of their lungs play the trumpet loudly and badly causing you to fall to your knees. Now a elephant sized dinosaur and a trumpet made for it.... that will be painful indeed, plus considering most theropods are closer to birds their hearing will be too great to stand most of the noise, plus a dinosaur might want to stay away from louder noises like birds also... So Hadrosaurs have a advantage because they are the ones making the sound.

But yeah many noobs will play as the hard to control giant theropod class, but I was think if somebody did make this game a player once their person levels up to a point they can change into another species of large theropod like from Albertasaurus to Tyrannosaurus or such. I would go for Carchar personally or get Megaraptor then I would be right at home.
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That primeval predators game will be like that, if the designers can get moving again on it lol( they missed the one opportunity for me to help with inactivity)! ( a bit of a lul for the last three weeks)
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Megaraptorking
Oct 10 2013, 07:49 AM
Oh well but anyways like Dr.Hax said there should be a few dromeosauirds who hunted in packs if not like wolves they might have been like crows or komodo dragon swarms...
Well, if you ask me. The closest thing to pack hunting for Dromaeosaurs might be just a group of hungry dinosaur during scarce time mobbing a very weak prey, for example a group of hungry Velociraptor surround a badly injured young herbivores such as Prenocephale or Protoceratops. Keep harrasing it by quick nipping until the traget is down due the exhaustion. Black vultures often do like this to take down weak capybara's pups.


And I am usually annoyed by the fact that some people think that dinosaur's brain is the same size to pea.... Yes, maybe for something like Archaeopteryx or Epidexipteryx which are already tiny, but not something like the famous T. rex or Triceratops for sure. Even Stegosaurus has walnut size brain and many Sauropods have banana size. I don't know what how do they get such source of data!
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People just really say that most of time to say, "Humans have big brains, all animals have small brains so therefore we are the smartest things in the word." Smartest beings my but, were just rats who can use tools and are way more sociable. Then the fact is we are bigger than the rats that are so similar to us! Lol... Plus most people say it because they are trying to make themselves smarter. That is why when people get mad at a dog when not trying to cuss at all "Dumb dog shut up!" When the dog is relatively smarter because they know what happens before you do.
Ah human ignorance..

But also JMT I kinda on that side too, I mean animals that are unsociable or less grouping like what you said would most likely do that. However with me I think that a pack of raptor is less than ten members considering if it was a small grouping of family or blood members who lived together like brothers or sisters such as in some lions or even cheetahs, or then once it is brooding time parents and young stay till the young grow up then they split to do their own thing. Then not to mention a pair of raptors that work like complete forever mates.
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I have no clue what you said in that post. I'm no expert, but other than evidence of where fossils are found and conditions they are found in, we'll never really know fully how such animals behaved, and as Iben mentioned earlier, many of them did not fossilize so we'll never have the full picture. But doesn't it stand to reason that there might have been diversity from one animal to the next?

For example lions and tigers are nearly identical in bone structure, the only differences are basically size and their outer appearance but both of them live very different lifestyles. Lions being social and raising young together and working as a unit, meanwhile the tiger is solitary. It's true that birds today are rarely group "hunters" but birds today also aren't grounded (except for a few, but they aren't meat eaters).

Personally, I think that depending on environment, size and from a species to species basis it may have been different, one may have hunted in full packs while others may have done something similar to crows while others hunted alone, or maybe even something similar to crocodiles/komodos.
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Oct 10 2013, 12:34 PM
But also JMT I kinda on that side too, I mean animals that are unsociable or less grouping like what you said would most likely do that. However with me I think that a pack of raptor is less than ten members considering if it was a small grouping of family or blood members who lived together like brothers or sisters such as in some lions or even cheetahs, or then once it is brooding time parents and young stay till the young grow up then they split to do their own thing. Then not to mention a pair of raptors that work like complete forever mates.
I think the problem of your theory is that we just can't compare Dromaeosaurs with lions and cheetah. They are very different group of animals especially their brain which one group is much more advance than another. While lions and cheetah have to teach their youngs to hunt and to live on their own for some years. I doubt that the "bird brain" Dromaeosaurs would have the same behavior. For me, the parental behavior of Dromaeosaurs would be more likely those fowls or cranes. Parents might raise their offsprings together or not, is not the main topic here. It seems that those birds don't have to teach their youngs to hunt like those big cats. They just stay there to protect their youngs from predators, that's all. The chicks need to fight for themselves in the first they and must forage for food themselves. The parents might at least help pointing the source of food, but of course not teaching them to hunt.
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Azrael
Oct 10 2013, 12:51 PM
I have no clue what you said in that post. I'm no expert, but other than evidence of where fossils are found and conditions they are found in, we'll never really know fully how such animals behaved, and as Iben mentioned earlier, many of them did not fossilize so we'll never have the full picture. But doesn't it stand to reason that there might have been diversity from one animal to the next?

For example lions and tigers are nearly identical in bone structure, the only differences are basically size and their outer appearance but both of them live very different lifestyles. Lions being social and raising young together and working as a unit, meanwhile the tiger is solitary. It's true that birds today are rarely group "hunters" but birds today also aren't grounded (except for a few, but they aren't meat eaters).

Personally, I think that depending on environment, size and from a species to species basis it may have been different, one may have hunted in full packs while others may have done something similar to crows while others hunted alone, or maybe even something similar to crocodiles/komodos.
I keep saying semi group like similar with crows my friend...

But ture JMT we really cannot compare to a bird to a mammal unless for blood and flesh. However it would mostly show truth in what the animals could be similar to, living together as family groups or related or unique bond only siblings or pairing nature. Since dromeosaurids were the felines of their day or the cheetahs, lynx, sometimes even Leopards of their day. However larger species like Tyrannosaurids took the Lion, Tiger, and bear type life of being the larger predators not to mention the Allosaurids and Abeliosaurids.
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Dromaeosaurids weren't like cheetahs, they weren't built for long burst of speed ;)
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Furka
Oct 10 2013, 07:59 AM
i think the sound-blasting theory was disproven ...
and i'd love a game like that, despite i know there will be plenty of n00bs that will play as giant theropods and go around killing other players just for the fun of ruining their game.
Not just that, but the sound blasting theory was never even taken seriously, it isn't even really a theory at all! Megaraptorking, I suggest you start watching good dinosaur documentaries instead of BS like Jurassic Fight Club and Clash of the Dinosaurs.

That's another thing that annoys me, the way these kinds of documentaries have brainwashed many paleo-fans.
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Thank you for the set, Azrael!

Now CyborgIguana, next you'll be saying Parasaurolophus couldn't actually breath fire...
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Furka
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agree on that, although it was JFC that revived my love for dinos.
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Oct 10 2013, 03:30 PM
Furka
Oct 10 2013, 07:59 AM
i think the sound-blasting theory was disproven ...
and i'd love a game like that, despite i know there will be plenty of n00bs that will play as giant theropods and go around killing other players just for the fun of ruining their game.
Not just that, but the sound blasting theory was never even taken seriously, it isn't even really a theory at all! Megaraptorking, I suggest you start watching good dinosaur documentaries instead of BS like Jurassic Fight Club and Clash of the Dinosaurs.

That's another thing that annoys me, the way these kinds of documentaries have brainwashed many paleo-fans.
I never took it form that but it is still plausible, consider hadrosaurs used sound a large amount more than making noise, they used it for alerts, calls, and other needs such as a warning for a carnivore is near. But consider if a entire herd of them are pinned by a couple of theropods, it might not kill but disable if the entire herd begun to sound off in the theropod's face. This would at least cause a distraction or disable the carnivore from fighting because of the loud sound, like if a loud as heck sound or a dog barks in your ear now by twenty that causes some loss of hearing for awhile or permanently.

I also watched alot of documentaries, and really only watch JFC for the battle or the animals instead of the facts. I mean really they had unfeathered theropods, why would I listen to them. Also I did not ever watch clash of the dinosaurs only if it was the always gloomy world of dinosaurs where everything looks in a horror movie at a old castle. Then I think I just watched the long documentary on the end of the dinosaurs.
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Megaraptorking
Oct 10 2013, 04:22 PM
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Oct 10 2013, 03:30 PM
Furka
Oct 10 2013, 07:59 AM
i think the sound-blasting theory was disproven ...
and i'd love a game like that, despite i know there will be plenty of n00bs that will play as giant theropods and go around killing other players just for the fun of ruining their game.
Not just that, but the sound blasting theory was never even taken seriously, it isn't even really a theory at all! Megaraptorking, I suggest you start watching good dinosaur documentaries instead of BS like Jurassic Fight Club and Clash of the Dinosaurs.

That's another thing that annoys me, the way these kinds of documentaries have brainwashed many paleo-fans.
I never took it form that but it is still plausible, consider hadrosaurs used sound a large amount more than making noise, they used it for alerts, calls, and other needs such as a warning for a carnivore is near. But consider if a entire herd of them are pinned by a couple of theropods, it might not kill but disable if the entire herd begun to sound off in the theropod's face. This would at least cause a distraction or disable the carnivore from fighting because of the loud sound, like if a loud as heck sound or a dog barks in your ear now by twenty that causes some loss of hearing for awhile or permanently.

I also watched alot of documentaries, and really only watch JFC for the battle or the animals instead of the facts. I mean really they had unfeathered theropods, why would I listen to them. Also I did not ever watch clash of the dinosaurs only if it was the always gloomy world of dinosaurs where everything looks in a horror movie at a old castle. Then I think I just watched the long documentary on the end of the dinosaurs.
Yeah, it was fun to watch prehistoric predators pwning each other in JFC and the CGI was decent, it's just that the facts were total garbage!
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CyborgIguana
Oct 10 2013, 04:28 PM
Megaraptorking
Oct 10 2013, 04:22 PM
CyborgIguana
Oct 10 2013, 03:30 PM
Furka
Oct 10 2013, 07:59 AM
i think the sound-blasting theory was disproven ...
and i'd love a game like that, despite i know there will be plenty of n00bs that will play as giant theropods and go around killing other players just for the fun of ruining their game.
Not just that, but the sound blasting theory was never even taken seriously, it isn't even really a theory at all! Megaraptorking, I suggest you start watching good dinosaur documentaries instead of BS like Jurassic Fight Club and Clash of the Dinosaurs.

That's another thing that annoys me, the way these kinds of documentaries have brainwashed many paleo-fans.
I never took it form that but it is still plausible, consider hadrosaurs used sound a large amount more than making noise, they used it for alerts, calls, and other needs such as a warning for a carnivore is near. But consider if a entire herd of them are pinned by a couple of theropods, it might not kill but disable if the entire herd begun to sound off in the theropod's face. This would at least cause a distraction or disable the carnivore from fighting because of the loud sound, like if a loud as heck sound or a dog barks in your ear now by twenty that causes some loss of hearing for awhile or permanently.

I also watched alot of documentaries, and really only watch JFC for the battle or the animals instead of the facts. I mean really they had unfeathered theropods, why would I listen to them. Also I did not ever watch clash of the dinosaurs only if it was the always gloomy world of dinosaurs where everything looks in a horror movie at a old castle. Then I think I just watched the long documentary on the end of the dinosaurs.
Yeah, it was fun to watch prehistoric predators pwning each other in JFC and the CGI was decent, it's just that the facts were total garbage!
I've come to the conclusion that "Dinosaur George"'s theories about dinosaurs are even worse than Jack Horner's theories. At least Jack knows his theories are garbage!
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