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What annoys you about paleontology?; Rant on about moronic theories, complaints, or just animals that annoy you.
Topic Started: Sep 28 2013, 05:04 PM (256,484 Views)
CyborgIguana
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Dr. Hax
Oct 10 2013, 04:40 PM
CyborgIguana
Oct 10 2013, 04:28 PM
Megaraptorking
Oct 10 2013, 04:22 PM
CyborgIguana
Oct 10 2013, 03:30 PM
Furka
Oct 10 2013, 07:59 AM
i think the sound-blasting theory was disproven ...
and i'd love a game like that, despite i know there will be plenty of n00bs that will play as giant theropods and go around killing other players just for the fun of ruining their game.
Not just that, but the sound blasting theory was never even taken seriously, it isn't even really a theory at all! Megaraptorking, I suggest you start watching good dinosaur documentaries instead of BS like Jurassic Fight Club and Clash of the Dinosaurs.

That's another thing that annoys me, the way these kinds of documentaries have brainwashed many paleo-fans.
I never took it form that but it is still plausible, consider hadrosaurs used sound a large amount more than making noise, they used it for alerts, calls, and other needs such as a warning for a carnivore is near. But consider if a entire herd of them are pinned by a couple of theropods, it might not kill but disable if the entire herd begun to sound off in the theropod's face. This would at least cause a distraction or disable the carnivore from fighting because of the loud sound, like if a loud as heck sound or a dog barks in your ear now by twenty that causes some loss of hearing for awhile or permanently.

I also watched alot of documentaries, and really only watch JFC for the battle or the animals instead of the facts. I mean really they had unfeathered theropods, why would I listen to them. Also I did not ever watch clash of the dinosaurs only if it was the always gloomy world of dinosaurs where everything looks in a horror movie at a old castle. Then I think I just watched the long documentary on the end of the dinosaurs.
Yeah, it was fun to watch prehistoric predators pwning each other in JFC and the CGI was decent, it's just that the facts were total garbage!
I've come to the conclusion that "Dinosaur George"'s theories about dinosaurs are even worse than Jack Horner's theories. At least Jack knows his theories are garbage!
Yeah, but remember that these documentaries have a tendency to quote-mine their consultants (this is what happened in Clash of the Dinosaurs). Maybe Dinosaur George didn't even support these theories, the show just made it look like he did. -.-

Speaking of Clash of the Dinosaurs, while it turned out to be one of the trashiest documenaries ever, I think it had a lot of potential. The CGI models were gorgeous and for the most part fairly accurate. It could've been a quite decent documentary if they didn't decide to add a bunch of retarded BS theories like practically superpowered dinosaurs. I like to think of the recent Last Day of the Dinosaurs documentary as a fixed-up version of COTD. It used the same dinosaur models and much of the same footage, but it portrayed the lives of the dinosaurs and their extinction much more accurately than its predecessor.
Edited by CyborgIguana, Oct 10 2013, 07:46 PM.
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CyborgIguana
Oct 10 2013, 05:35 PM
I like to think of the recent Last Day of the Dinosaurs documentary as a fixed-up version of COTD. It used the same dinosaur models and much of the same footage, but it portrayed the lives of the dinosaurs and their extinction much more accurately than its predecessor.
Minus the ninja-rambo style deinonychosaurs... *grumble grumble* but at least in the end they're shown to be quite fragile when some weight is put on those birdy bones.
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yeah, but do you want me to mention the final fight ? totally unrealistic and unnecessary (although first time i see a thropod beating an ankylosaur)
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Thank you for the set, Azrael!

Just the general complete lack of any sort of knowledge of extinct animals can be annoying.

Yesterday my dad asked me to name 10 cars. I couldn't care less about cars but I know 10 - Ford Mustang, Pontiac Firebird, etc. So I asked him to name three dinosaurs.

He knew two: T. rex, and Pterodactyl. -.-

Not even getting into it about Pterodactyl, he couldn't even remember what the T. stood for in T. rex. Now it's understandable not to know what an Incisivosaurus is, for example... but really, you've never heard of Tyrannosaurus rex, Triceratops, or Velociraptor? O.o I mean yeah I get it's not your thing but just by being alive I'd think you'd learn a couple. :/
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that's very odd.
people usually know at least all 4 of the most famous dinosaurs (Tyrannosaurus, Triceratops, Stegosaurus and "Brontosaurus"), and many can also tell you raptor, although not many know what a raptor exactly is ...
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CyborgIguana
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Sheather
Oct 11 2013, 04:23 PM
Just the general complete lack of any sort of knowledge of extinct animals can be annoying.

Yesterday my dad asked me to name 10 cars. I couldn't care less about cars but I know 10 - Ford Mustang, Pontiac Firebird, etc. So I asked him to name three dinosaurs.

He knew two: T. rex, and Pterodactyl. -.-

Not even getting into it about Pterodactyl, he couldn't even remember what the T. stood for in T. rex. Now it's understandable not to know what an Incisivosaurus is, for example... but really, you've never heard of Tyrannosaurus rex, Triceratops, or Velociraptor? O.o I mean yeah I get it's not your thing but just by being alive I'd think you'd learn a couple. :/
Indeed. While it's not his thing either, my dad can still name at least 20 different dinosaurs (most of which he's learned from me, but still).
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Mihi est imperare orbi universo

My father knows quite a lot (he learned most from me or reading dinosaur books with me when I was a child though).
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The fact that almost every single depiction of Dilophosaurus these days portrays it as venomous. Yes, it was an interesting and creative addition to the JP Dilophosaurus, but do we really need EVERY SINGLE DILO TO BE A SPITTER??? (the one example I can forgive is the Primal Carnage Dilo, since it is pretty darn fun to blind Pathfinders with Dilo spit).
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CyborgIguana
Oct 12 2013, 04:11 AM
The fact that almost every single depiction of Dilophosaurus these days portrays it as venomous. Yes, it was an interesting and creative addition to the JP Dilophosaurus, but do we really need EVERY SINGLE DILO TO BE A SPITTER??? (the one example I can forgive is the Primal Carnage Dilo, since it is pretty darn fun to blind Pathfinders with Dilo spit).
That's funny, i was just about to make the same complaint! Anyway, what annoys me about paleontology:
Automatically assuming all Ceratopsids had quills just because Psittaccosaurus had them.
People who still think that Quetzacoatlus was a coastal diver that was virtually the same thing as Pteranodon, but bigger.
The fact that one of the first images of Velociraptor on Google images is a JP-style one.
The fact that I'm too lazy to learn more pterosaurs.
The incredibly confusing name history of Edmontosaurus. (I'm still not sure whether Anatotitan is a valid species)
The WWD T. rex (I'll explain later)
The fact that Primal Carnage's dinosaur classes are all blatant ripoffs of Jurassic Park.
The fact that Plesiosaurs are still portrayed as having bendynecks.
The fact that Liopleurodon is always FREAKING huge in the media even though it was actually one of the smaller pliosaurs.
The fact that DM's Giganotosaurus is shorter than giga actually was.(To elaborate, here's how tall the giga is ingame: Posted Image Now here's how tall it actually was: Posted Image )
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Dr. Hax
Oct 12 2013, 04:30 AM
CyborgIguana
Oct 12 2013, 04:11 AM
The fact that almost every single depiction of Dilophosaurus these days portrays it as venomous. Yes, it was an interesting and creative addition to the JP Dilophosaurus, but do we really need EVERY SINGLE DILO TO BE A SPITTER??? (the one example I can forgive is the Primal Carnage Dilo, since it is pretty darn fun to blind Pathfinders with Dilo spit).
That's funny, i was just about to make the same complaint! Anyway, what annoys me about paleontology:
Automatically assuming all Ceratopsids had quills just because Psittaccosaurus had them.
People who still think that Quetzacoatlus was a coastal diver that was virtually the same thing as Pteranodon, but bigger.
The fact that one of the first images of Velociraptor on Google images is a JP-style one.
The fact that I'm too lazy to learn more pterosaurs.
The incredibly confusing name history of Edmontosaurus. (I'm still not sure whether Anatotitan is a valid species)
The WWD T. rex (I'll explain later)
The fact that Primal Carnage's dinosaur classes are all blatant ripoffs of Jurassic Park.
The fact that Plesiosaurs are still portrayed as having bendynecks.
The fact that Liopleurodon is always FREAKING huge in the media even though it was actually one of the smaller pliosaurs.
The fact that DM's Giganotosaurus is shorter than giga actually was.(To elaborate, here's how tall the giga is ingame: Posted Image Now here's how tall it actually was: Posted Image )
Primal Carnage is an awesome game, though. At least they made the Pteranodon toothless, had Dilophosaurus sized correctly, and left the neck frill off.
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Meh, i always have trouble playing it because my laptop isn't exactly the fastest thing in the world. TF2, on the other hand, i do things just fine, unless it's a really active server, then it's slower than a slug riding a snail riding a sloth riding an anaconda riding turtle riding a blue whale. On-topic, i hate the way people use raptor anims for large dinosaurs in ZT2. Have you seen how fast Tyranachu's Spinosaurus is? I mean, not to offend the guy or anything, he's a close friend of mine, but it moves unrealistically fast.
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Anims can be slowed down as far as I recall... >.> Maybe we should start a topic "what annoys you in ZT designing?" ?
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agree, this is about Paleontology, not ZT2 stuff ;)
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I agree, too; although DM's Giga isn't actually too small at all, it's just that its upper legs are nearly parallel to the ground.

One thing that annoys me is when dromaeosaurids are treated as gods in a paravian's clothing. There is no way 2 Deinonychus could take down a juvenile sauropod, like in Clash of the Dinosaurs. They were very cool animals, and were defiantly very dangerous, but they simply couldn't kill an animal several hundred times large their size. I'd even favor a Citipati over a Velociraptor in a fight.
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Pull my finger!

DeviantArt's Feather Nazis group. While I do admire their artwork (and support their cause), they're like too uber-strict about accuracy, such as toe size, amount of teeth added, etc.
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