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| What annoys you about paleontology?; Rant on about moronic theories, complaints, or just animals that annoy you. | |
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| Topic Started: Sep 28 2013, 05:04 PM (256,284 Views) | |
| Nomis | Nov 9 2014, 08:51 AM Post #3241 |
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I think they meant to put Plateosaurus there. |
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| Furka | Nov 9 2014, 12:32 PM Post #3242 |
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Or there's a Coelophysis standing next to it, and it was cropped from the pic together with Plateosaurus name (if that's a Plateosaurus). |
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Nov 9 2014, 01:21 PM Post #3243 |
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This![]() this ![]() and this ![]() Worst of all they are recent depictions (I'm aware not all Christians believe in these lies by Ken Ham and AIG) Edited by Guat, Nov 9 2014, 01:23 PM.
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| CyborgIguana | Nov 9 2014, 01:23 PM Post #3244 |
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Oh Lord...is that AiG's bullshit creation museum?
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| stargatedalek | Nov 9 2014, 01:29 PM Post #3245 |
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I'm not slow! That's just my moe!
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they couldn't even do their own inaccurate dinosaurs they stole them all from sci-fi movies |
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| CyborgIguana | Nov 9 2014, 01:57 PM Post #3246 |
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Heck, they even managed to make them look UGLIER than their original versions (since when does the JP raptor have those therizinosaur fingers??) |
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| Carnoraptorsaur | Nov 11 2014, 01:40 PM Post #3247 |
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Spoiler: click to toggle Why AVCDPS Why! It burns my eyes every time I even come close to seeing the Creation Museum
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| CyborgIguana | Nov 12 2014, 01:42 PM Post #3248 |
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The way that popular culture seems to be deliberately keeping behind the times in terms of dinosaur science lately. At least better depictions do seem to be increasing in numbers, but the media still has a lot of catching up to do IMO.
Edited by CyborgIguana, Nov 12 2014, 01:45 PM.
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| Yi Qi | Nov 12 2014, 04:03 PM Post #3249 |
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http://dinogoss.blogspot.com.br/2014/07/people-think-feathered-dinosaurs-dont.html like i said, this might play a part on it people are just not ready to admit that their beloved raptors and t rexes may not be all that badass afterall and they seem to think nature works to please their tastes. |
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| CyborgIguana | Nov 12 2014, 06:58 PM Post #3250 |
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I'm generally ok with "awesomebro'd" dinosaurs in sci-fi, but documentaries and the like should really learn to get their facts straight.
Edited by CyborgIguana, Nov 12 2014, 06:59 PM.
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| Incinerox | Nov 12 2014, 08:02 PM Post #3251 |
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Āeksiot Zaldrīzoti
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Because snakes and lizards are scarier than "TIGER-EAGLES". |
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| Yi Qi | Nov 12 2014, 08:10 PM Post #3252 |
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Hey, their logic, not mine! also animals don't need to be scary to be interesting, Doucs are not scary, yet theres few creatures as interesting and enigmatic as them. ![]() also how many animals out there are really scary? nature doesn't really cares about what we find scary or not, while sure theres many scary creatures out there, but theres just as many silly looking, beautifull, goofy, cute, adorable, gross, ugly and adorable creatures, and surely not all dinosaurs would've fit unto the label of scary. Edited by Yi Qi, Nov 12 2014, 08:15 PM.
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| CyborgIguana | Nov 12 2014, 09:32 PM Post #3253 |
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Also the way that almost ALL large dinosaurs roar in fiction, despite the immense variety of vocalizations in modern animals. |
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| MightyFan217 | Nov 13 2014, 01:47 AM Post #3254 |
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OH YESSS!
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My own personal question is IF they could even roar at all to be honest... Do we have any idea as to what they were capable of in terms of vocalization? |
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| Incinerox | Nov 13 2014, 04:53 AM Post #3255 |
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Āeksiot Zaldrīzoti
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It's not just a coincidence that the creatures humans find scary also happen to be the ones that early humans had to respond to as a matter of survival. Big cats, bears and crocs actually eat people. Spiders and snakes have venom. Even seemingly harmless amphibians register as "highly toxic and gross". They've registered in the human brain as "DANGEROUS, GET AWAY FROM IT" since their humble origins in the trees of Africa. The cassowary, an animal I'd perhaps consider more physically and statistically dangerous and aggressive than most of the species the groups of feared entails, does not do any of those things. And because humans have only really encountered it in one corner of the world over a relatively small portion of their evolutionary history, a naturally behavoural response to them never formed. Even though it actually made it as one of the more dangerous animals in FAR CRY 3 (ie. it needed to be badass enough to earn its place among leopards, komodo dragons and PIRATES) coz it could do things LIKE THIS: ![]() Of course, this isn't the first thing that comes to most people's minds on the basis that "giant blue faced wingless bird" was never on the list of things that used to eat us.
As for vocalisations, it's very hard to say. Modern reptiles don't actually have vocal chords, yet many species among all clades have distinct sounds, from gecko chirping, everything hissing to crocodile bellows which can actually resonate with water. Then you have birds with their syrinxes and their capacity to produce multiple tones simultaneously, and their complex songs and things like that. Not all birds even have syrinxes, so it's unlikely dinosaurs were able to make complex songs or mimic the calls of other animals the way modern birds do. They were more likely to sound like reptiles. However, the lyrinx has evolved multiple times independently throughout the animal kingdom. It's perfectly reasonable to assume that dinosaurs had vocal chords of some kind. But then you have things like lambeosaurines with their hollow crests and their trumpeting. A colourful AND noisy display. It's also interesting to note that dinosaurs, including early birds, were tuned in on lower frequencies than a similar sized mammal would be. Just food for thought. But going back to the idea of things that annoy me, expanding on the idea on annoying things in vocalisations: This is not just paleontology, but in anything involving (re)constructing a non-extant species. I hate it when people create an animal whose roars or calls sound out of proportion to their overall size. A big animal, regardless of clade or vocal specialisation, is going to produce a louder, deeper call than a a small individual. Basically, the more air you carry in your air passages ie. lungs and throat, the deeper and the call's going to be. Don't make something like a large, heavy theropod or a sauropod screech or squeal like a pig unless you can find an appropriately sized pig to record. Edited by Incinerox, Nov 13 2014, 05:12 AM.
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