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| What annoys you about paleontology?; Rant on about moronic theories, complaints, or just animals that annoy you. | |
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| Topic Started: Sep 28 2013, 05:04 PM (256,273 Views) | |
| BossAggron | Dec 12 2014, 10:26 PM Post #3406 |
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Formerly Dilophoraptor
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I think its because Giant feathered lizard thing isn't registered in our Fear instinct, I can't remember where i saw it but it definitely makes sense. (that and Non-Avians aren't around for us to actually get a sense of scale with) |
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| Furka | Dec 13 2014, 07:42 AM Post #3407 |
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When you find out one of the animals you used in your art has been assigned to another genus, which you also used in your work, but it turns out to be a pretty different animal. So now I find myself with one less animal in my storyline and another who needs his scene to be edited. Edited by Furka, Dec 13 2014, 07:42 AM.
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Dec 15 2014, 10:13 PM Post #3408 |
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Not really about Paleontology but I'll leave it here anyways. My Biology teacher in class lets us pick what animals we want to do for a project. I hand in my sheet with what animal I want to do, I picked Oviraptor, being my favorite dinosaur. She decided to make up personalized questions to see if we know background knowledge about my animal... One of the questions: Which of these species is your animal more closely related to? A shark, an alligator, a kangaroo, or a toucan? I put Toucan. She counts it WRONG! I even showed her evidence but she still wouldn't change it. Another part of the project was to draw your animal, so of course I draw the Oviraptor with feathers and everything it needs to be accurate. When I hand it in she asks me why I drew a bird instead of a dinosaur.
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| Similis | Dec 16 2014, 01:36 AM Post #3409 |
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I'd probably be asshole enough about the issue as to drag this to the principal and point out that if their teachers are less competent in certain areas than students then they should probably either re-educate themselves (since the 'dinosaurs are not birds and were bald' is kinda... old) or let the students be more expressive instead of teaching them to reject knowledge and just 'pass' the class. |
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| Mathius Tyra | Dec 16 2014, 02:08 AM Post #3410 |
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Rat snake is love... Rat snake is life
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...Good teachers always listen and learn from their students... |
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| Ignacio | Dec 17 2014, 04:34 PM Post #3411 |
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Although there are few of those... specially in University
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| Incinerox | Dec 18 2014, 04:31 AM Post #3412 |
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Āeksiot Zaldrīzoti
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Once you get to uni (I assume yer in high school currently), teachers/lecturers/professors are FAR more willing to learn from their students. Part of their job really. For example, first year of university, did animal biology for my course. The equivalent module for "Biology 101" was taught by a microbiologist. One assessment was "pick any question about biology and write a review paper on it". I had 3 questions to pick from. I had one about the success of British Red Kite conservation, something about something else, I can't remember what. Secretary birds? And the third was about dromaeosaurids and their capacity for social behaviour, specifically pack hunting. None of the modules even covered that. Lecturer's response: "Oh shit, pick the dinosaur one! That one sounds REALLY good". Got a First. Mostly because my lecturer actually took something new from it. Lecturers LOVE papers where they actually LEARN something from it. It's not like school where it's like: "This is the syllabus. All of these things we teach you are 100% undeniable fact. No questions!" "But--" "NO QUESTIONS!" I suppose that's all the opposite of annoying. So I'll go back to a previous annoyance and expand a bit on it. I want to go back to the whole thing about silly looking dinosaurs and how people thing silly =/= cool, but also how also silly =/= inaccurate and mostly how silly =/= not dangerous. Here's a first hand example of the most annoying case of this I've has personal experience with: A little while ago, I watched a documentary about the prehistory of Australia. How it all came about and the weird and wonderful creatures to ever roam the continent. It was all very interesting, and I was pleased to see that they included a fair portion of Mesozoic creatures as well. But I want to refer to one in particular. They featured Australovenator. Banjo. Now, this was all fine and dandy, except here's what it looks like: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Already I'm thinking that whoever designed that thing shoulda been sacked. They gave it a ridiculously tiny and EXTREMELY derpy skull, the limb proportions are ridiculous and they gave it this retarded, loping gait. And it gets worse OK. It gets worse and I blame it PURELY whichever incompetent bastard drew this skeletal here. I mean, take a look at what happened to the actual animations: ![]() ![]() I mean look what they've done! Look at that posture! Look at how insanely boxy the shoulder girdle is! I wanted to hate it. I wanted to hate every inch of that bastard from its tiny, stupid, derpy face, to its stupid lanky limbs and stupid posture with a broken neck and pronated hands. I wanted to hate it and mock it until the end of time. But here's the annoying part. Remember how I spent ages blabbing on and on about making my own composite megaraptorid skeletal, including Australovenator parts? Well, in a world where almost all depictions of Australovenator and its offshoot-tyrannosauroid relatives are still depicted almost entirely bastardised carcharodontosaurid-neovenatorid type theropods, or even SPINOSAURIDS... That Australovenator, that BLOODY Australovenator... Is the most ACCURATE Megaraptorid... ...IN THE WORLD... TL;DR: Paleontology has somehow, by chance, shown mercy upon the incompetence of certain animators. And that bothers me. Edited by Incinerox, Dec 18 2014, 04:35 AM.
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| stargatedalek | Dec 18 2014, 07:21 AM Post #3413 |
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I'm not slow! That's just my moe!
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those wrists are sometimes pronated sometimes not ![]() that really is unfortunate Edited by stargatedalek, Dec 18 2014, 07:23 AM.
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| Incinerox | Dec 18 2014, 07:25 AM Post #3414 |
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Couldn't even make up their bloody minds... |
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| Mathius Tyra | Dec 18 2014, 07:54 AM Post #3415 |
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Rat snake is love... Rat snake is life
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Wait... You made that Australo's skeleton yourself? |
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| Incinerox | Dec 18 2014, 05:40 PM Post #3416 |
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It's not so much an Australovenator as it is a generalised Megaraptorid, comprising of bits and bobs of several fragmented genera. But yeh, that's mine. |
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| Ignacio | Dec 18 2014, 06:53 PM Post #3417 |
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Tell that to my professors. They think they can never be wrong (or at least most of them) but i guess that is just a thing that doctors do. |
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| CyborgIguana | Dec 18 2014, 08:21 PM Post #3418 |
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People who use "but fedderz can grow inBtween scalz" as an excuse to fluff up obviously scaly dinosaur genera. Yes, feathers can grow in between small rounded avian scales. Plated reptilian scales and osteoderms on the other hand... |
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| Incinerox | Dec 19 2014, 02:59 AM Post #3419 |
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Āeksiot Zaldrīzoti
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I have seen this too many times, even in this bloody community!
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| Even | Dec 19 2014, 03:22 AM Post #3420 |
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Poor sir DG... It's interesting that the proportions used for that show's Australovenator are actually correct after all... Well, since most of the scales are reticulae, there's still a possibility of feathers growing in between them |
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