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| What annoys you about paleontology?; Rant on about moronic theories, complaints, or just animals that annoy you. | |
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| Topic Started: Sep 28 2013, 05:04 PM (256,474 Views) | |
| Similis | Oct 21 2013, 12:36 AM Post #391 |
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Guys, people back then knew little about the dinosaurs. Remember that 20 or so years ago an idea that any tyrannosauroid would be feathered was impossible to comperhend and only recently we've got something as glorious as the Yutyrannus. People depicted dinosaurs as best as they could, even if it meant their restorations are now outdated. I'm quite nostalgic about the old and the semi-new dinosaur paintings because it reminds us how little we knew just a little bit back. But if someone says he/she/it prefers the old restorations because they were 'cooler'... well. I'd suggest them to go watch Gojira movies instead of dinosaur documentaries. |
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| Mathius Tyra | Oct 21 2013, 05:55 AM Post #392 |
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I really like those classic dinosaur restorations! They are the very valuable and impressive as arts but they are not for dinosaur anatomy learning anymore. |
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| CyborgIguana | Oct 21 2013, 02:24 PM Post #393 |
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Another thing that bugs me is when the Mesozoic is depicted as some kind of badass unsurvivable death world. I mean, when was the last time you saw a non-documentary dinosaur movie that didn't include every single theropod trying to eat you, jungles filled with giant carnivorous plants, and lava-spewing volcanoes around every corner? In real life, the Mesozoic was probably just like the Earth today: a normal world filled with normal ecosystems, normal plants, and normal animals. I understand that audiences want excitement, but isn't the real Mesozoic world excitement enough? It was still a spectacular era, even without all these exaggerations.
Edited by CyborgIguana, Oct 21 2013, 02:25 PM.
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| Okeanos | Oct 21 2013, 03:00 PM Post #394 |
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I honestly prefer the old Paleoartists (who did their best representation of a group of animals new to science, with not many resources may I add) to some paleoartists today who just blatantly refuse to believe any of the latest evidence and are stuck painting scaly Raptors who hunted in packs (Yes, they do exist, and no, I don't know how they can call themselves Paleoartists) |
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Oct 21 2013, 04:22 PM Post #395 |
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I understand that they did their best at the time, I was messing around XD. And yes, those old time representations were nice, I should have said that I hate when people think those old representations are more accurate over say, a feathered raptor. |
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| Furka | Oct 21 2013, 04:23 PM Post #396 |
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i agree, dinosaurs were more accurate (for the theories of the time) in their beginings ... |
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Oct 21 2013, 06:28 PM Post #397 |
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I stand in the shadows waiting for you to return me to the light.
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You know I always had this giant question for the people who found fossils at the time of horrid depictions of dinosaurs. Why did they not make the idea of if dinosaur bones are hollow and light, and bird bones are hollow and light were they not close? Then once people found raptors why did not think, this thing, looks like a weird bird lizard thingy... Is it related to birds? I mean I would pick up a small dinosaur bone and measure the weight of a bone with a ostrich and minus the weight of the rock to see if well the bones were about the same in weight. I mean did they even have read comprehension skills and why did they not use those skills to figure out what dinosaurs really were? |
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| Furka | Oct 21 2013, 06:33 PM Post #398 |
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science back then wasn't the same as today, things that may look obviout for us may have not been like that once
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Oct 21 2013, 07:19 PM Post #399 |
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I stand in the shadows waiting for you to return me to the light.
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Still I mean was nobody think that any of the bones were similar to birds at all? I mean your a paleotologist and your eating some chicken for dinner your licking your fingers and you see the bones look like a Gorjirasaurus skeleton... I mean come on.. |
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Oct 21 2013, 09:49 PM Post #400 |
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Pull my finger!
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Says the person who thinks Kelmayisaurus is an actual dinosaur Just kidding. Anyway, back then, people didn't know that dinosaurs and bird were cousins. Just remember that they had little to no evidence to examine with, besides Archaeopteryx. |
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| Okeanos | Oct 22 2013, 02:22 AM Post #401 |
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It's easy to say 'how could they not see that?' when we already know it. Isaac Newton only published his work on Gravity in 1687, but it's so "obvious" he must have been "stupid" not to see it before, right? The early palaeontologists laid down the foundations for our knowledge now. Without them, there'd be no way we could know what we know now. |
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| Meerkatmatt2 | Oct 22 2013, 07:12 AM Post #402 |
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Back Armour on animals like postosuchus and Saurosuchus, such Armour would need bones to go with it and have not been found, not to mention the exposed flanks. The triassic and the paleozoic do not get enough love! |
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Oct 22 2013, 07:51 AM Post #403 |
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I stand in the shadows waiting for you to return me to the light.
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But it is a crocodilemorph (Postosuchus) so it would have hides like that, because crocodiles are harden scales (Correct me if I am wrong). So since they are archosaurs then it would be more likely to have a scaly hide dough. |
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| Meerkatmatt2 | Oct 22 2013, 08:17 AM Post #404 |
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The lumps on the crocodiles back,are designed as both Armour and to deflect water high on the back is a place where few animals could reach. These have not been found in the postosuchus, okay, maybe not on the crocs, but on a T.rex, FUUUUU! |
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Oct 23 2013, 06:32 PM Post #405 |
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Recent, emphasis on recent, theories that sauropods simply couldnt have stood up. |
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