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| What annoys you about paleontology?; Rant on about moronic theories, complaints, or just animals that annoy you. | |
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| Topic Started: Sep 28 2013, 05:04 PM (256,146 Views) | |
| Incinerox | Jun 17 2016, 02:39 AM Post #5311 |
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Āeksiot Zaldrīzoti
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What if he was one of them? He's actually a Shantu in disguise. |
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| the dark phoenix | Jun 17 2016, 07:00 AM Post #5312 |
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King of wonderlandia
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Ancient plants and the lack of info on them. Also the fact that apparently accuracy is a option rather than standard in media. The isle will have featherless and feathered raptors, Prehistoric kingdom is doing the same, and so did/does mesozoica. Even things like JP builder just tar and feather rather than decent placement. It's a style choice to people instead of fact. It's sad. Years of research and study, even a whole renaissance deal and yet the only media to get it right is Saurian and some dinosaur documentaries. If you want people to see accuracy and know what true dinosaurs are in the modern era, stop making accuracy option to please a few scalies. People won't learn if you give them a lazy option. |
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| Incinerox | Jun 17 2016, 10:15 AM Post #5313 |
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Āeksiot Zaldrīzoti
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Pay to view papers; Research Gate; All that crap. Why must science only be appreciated by those with money or some corporate/academic affiliation? PlosOne is sacred and all things great in this respect. Everything else is terrible. Speaking of, does anyone have access to ResearchGate papers? I need help accessing something inside one such paper (hence the annoyance). Edited by Incinerox, Jun 17 2016, 10:18 AM.
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| PrimevalBrony | Jun 17 2016, 04:19 PM Post #5314 |
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Youtuber. Combat robotics fan
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It bugs me that so many amazing dinosaurs are almost completely ignored by everything, even Wikipedia! Don't believe me? Go look at Viavenator's "page" Edited by PrimevalBrony, Jun 17 2016, 04:19 PM.
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| heliosphoros | Jun 17 2016, 07:22 PM Post #5315 |
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I have an account thanks to my connections to the University of Faro, and I've successfully gotten a few papers otherwise paywalled that the authors themselves gave to me. Most are on Mesozoic mammals, particularly eutriconodonts. |
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| CyborgIguana | Jun 17 2016, 07:25 PM Post #5316 |
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Yes yes, we've heard this before. |
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| heliosphoros | Jun 17 2016, 07:56 PM Post #5317 |
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Better ignore him at this point. He is appearently incapable of learning from past experiences. |
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| Mathius Tyra | Jun 17 2016, 08:32 PM Post #5318 |
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Rat snake is love... Rat snake is life
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What is a Viavenator again? A piece of bone, a tooth or a tid bit of fragmented skull? |
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| Paleodude | Jun 17 2016, 10:08 PM Post #5319 |
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Actually Prehistoric Kingdom isn't going to feature featherless raptors as they've said multiple times that if an animal has an extremely likely or confirmed chance of feathers then their will be an option for both. Cases include Deinonychus and Velociraptor. |
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| CyborgIguana | Jun 17 2016, 10:10 PM Post #5320 |
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I think he's just annoyed by the fact that there's an option for scales at all, since it still sort of gives in to the whole awesomebro culture. |
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| stargatedalek | Jun 18 2016, 08:59 AM Post #5321 |
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I'm not slow! That's just my moe!
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I don't mind scaled dinosaurs as long as they don't pretend to be accurate. Like ARK, ARK is more like a Star Wars planet with dinosaurs on it in that they're based on real things, but purposefully distinct from them. Whereas The Isle goes more the Jurassic Park route and uses in-universe reasoning for the inaccuracies. On one hand I do feel like adding the option takes away from the realistic versions, but on the other hand thinking of it like The Isle and Prehistoric Kingdom are a middle grounds between games like ARK and games like Saurian their existence feels a lot more validated. What I mind are instances like REBOR, Mesozoica, or Geoworld where the creators claim their product is scientifically sound, when it blatantly isn't. |
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| PrimevalBrony | Jun 18 2016, 09:09 PM Post #5322 |
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I do learn, it's just that it still bugs me that Viavenator's page is only ~8 words and a tiny table. Anyway, something that bugs me (that I hopefully haven't said before, if I have then it still bugs me I guess) is how dinosaurs are abused in the media. Need something fresh and new in your kids show? Just add dinosaur skeletons. And somehow it keeps working. I mean I can understand it with preschooler programmes, but shows that were kids shows that seem to be for a broader demographic nowadays (although still targeting kids in particular) simply refuse to be rare, fresh and interesting with dinosaurs except for one: Dinosaur Train. Yup, you heard me. The show that is hated by seemingly everyone has more rare dinosaurs and palaeo-education than every other programme that thinks "Dinosaurs, now that is how views are gotten" |
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Jun 18 2016, 11:14 PM Post #5323 |
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Viavenator has a small Wikipedia page because it was only just described this year and didn't receive a lot of publicity for people to know about it. Not that it really deserves publicity considering it's a pretty generic Abelisaur from what I can tell. |
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| Imperator Furiosa | Jun 19 2016, 12:32 AM Post #5324 |
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Chaos Theory
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Honestly the fact that prehistoric mammals except for Pleistocene megafauna are largely ignored by media is more disappointing than people ignoring obscure dinosaurs in my opinion. Mammals were, and still are honestly, an incredibly diverse and successful group of organisms which have managed to occupy nearly every climate, but you rarely see documentaries or games or anything really about them. I'd argue they're just as fascinating as dinosaurs but I guess the Law of Awesome dictates that prehistoric mammals except for Woolly Mammoths and Smilodon just aren't interesting. |
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| Acinonyx Jubatus | Jun 19 2016, 12:39 AM Post #5325 |
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I AM THE UNSHRINKWRAPPER!
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Same goes for Non-mammalian Synapsids and anything from the Triassic. But haven't we touched on the abhorrent underappreciation of certain taxa enough? This topic comes up here every other week, it seems. |
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