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What annoys you about paleontology?; Rant on about moronic theories, complaints, or just animals that annoy you.
Topic Started: Sep 28 2013, 05:04 PM (256,449 Views)
Similis
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Gobi isn't exactly what you'd call an extremely hot place all around and it wasn't necessarily different 70+ mya.
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Banned for being rude.

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Nov 13 2013, 06:39 AM
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People who spread fake dinosaurs article. I saw one that says that says dinosaurs are wiped out by aliens, because the aliens like their taste. What I'm more annoyed to it is that a picture of Humanoid Troodon (From the Hypothesis if dinosaurs don't go extinct, though they aren't :P ), was also used with a caption saying "Aliens (The humanoid Troodon) live side by side with Dinosaurs (The Troodon reconstruction beside it)". I mean, it's misused and more people agree than disagree (Note that it's an Indonesian article. People here are less specialized on paleontology and more religious xD )
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The Dinosauroid was announced in 2011 in France .____.
And the fact that some dinosaurs might have feathers was first seen last year in the books >_<
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There'll be no foot-walking! Just air-flying!

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Nov 13 2013, 07:20 AM
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Nov 13 2013, 06:46 AM
African crested porcupines, they live in very hot climates, and are both very bristly and pretty fluffy.

Although I actually think the animal depicted there is a hypothetical boreal species; Still it illustrated my point. :3 I really wanted a fluffy sauropod but couldn't find one. :<
It would be more possible for boreal specie, but for Protoceratops species in Mogolia, I don't see why they should have such enormous fluff. :P
You forget the thing every single person seems to forget when it comes to deserts :p

Due the fact that there are very little to really no clouds at all, deserts are really hot during the day as the sunlight directly heats the ground, which then heats up the air. That's why it's so hot in the desert.

However. Due the fact that the air is so hot and dry, there's very little moisture in it and that means very little heat is actually kept in the air. Therefore, when the sun sets and the sun no longer heats up the ground ( which in it's turn heats up the air ), the ground and the air quickly cool off. On top of that, cloudless skies makes it very easy to release heat. That's why at night temperatures in deserts can even drop below zero.

Secondly, you also forget that feathers can preserve air and work much like the layers desert nomads wear.

So even if we ignore the fact that the Mongolian desert wasn't as hot and dry as the Saharan desert, a good thick, multilayered fluffy coat had a lot of advantages, so that would increase the possibility rate a lot. ;)
Edited by Iben, Nov 13 2013, 09:27 AM.
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Bigwhale
Nov 13 2013, 07:53 AM
People who spread fake dinosaurs article. I saw one that says that says dinosaurs are wiped out by aliens, because the aliens like their taste. What I'm more annoyed to it is that a picture of Humanoid Troodon (From the Hypothesis if dinosaurs don't go extinct, though they aren't :P ), was also used with a caption saying "Aliens (The humanoid Troodon) live side by side with Dinosaurs (The Troodon reconstruction beside it)". I mean, it's misused and more people agree than disagree (Note that it's an Indonesian article. People here are less specialized on paleontology and more religious xD )
The Dinosauroids in general annoy me. The most hideous things I've ever seen! I also don't see why intelligent dinosaurs would necessarily evolve a humanoid body plan. We humans look the way we do largely thanks to our particular evolutionary history, so chances are that a sapient dinosaur would look quite different since it would've evolved from very different ancestors.
Edited by CyborgIguana, Nov 13 2013, 10:06 AM.
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Here's how the dinosauroid should've been
http://www.deviantart.com/art/Simon-Roy-s-Black-Dinosauroid-155614278
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YES! NOW THAT IS A DINOSAUROID! :D
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Iben
Nov 13 2013, 09:17 AM
Jurassic MT
Nov 13 2013, 07:20 AM
Sheather
Nov 13 2013, 06:46 AM
African crested porcupines, they live in very hot climates, and are both very bristly and pretty fluffy.

Although I actually think the animal depicted there is a hypothetical boreal species; Still it illustrated my point. :3 I really wanted a fluffy sauropod but couldn't find one. :<
It would be more possible for boreal specie, but for Protoceratops species in Mogolia, I don't see why they should have such enormous fluff. :P
You forget the thing every single person seems to forget when it comes to deserts :p

Due the fact that there are very little to really no clouds at all, deserts are really hot during the day as the sunlight directly heats the ground, which then heats up the air. That's why it's so hot in the desert.

However. Due the fact that the air is so hot and dry, there's very little moisture in it and that means very little heat is actually kept in the air. Therefore, when the sun sets and the sun no longer heats up the ground ( which in it's turn heats up the air ), the ground and the air quickly cool off. On top of that, cloudless skies makes it very easy to release heat. That's why at night temperatures in deserts can even drop below zero.

Secondly, you also forget that feathers can preserve air and work much like the layers desert nomads wear.

So even if we ignore the fact that the Mongolian desert wasn't as hot and dry as the Saharan desert, a good thick, multilayered fluffy coat had a lot of advantages, so that would increase the possibility rate a lot. ;)
That is reasonable. I forgot that Bactrian camel has such type of fluff too. :P
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CyborgIguana
Nov 13 2013, 10:05 AM
The Dinosauroids in general annoy me. The most hideous things I've ever seen! I also don't see why intelligent dinosaurs would necessarily evolve a humanoid body plan.
Pride, arrogance, ignorance. We think that if we're the most inventive species on the planet that has a long (from human life perspective) history and greatly differed culture, any other intelligent beings must've looked like us. I usually don't express it but... I think the creation story might influence such attempts at reconstructing sapient archosaurs - "If they were to be as intelligent as we are, they'd have to have been made into perfect shape, and as we all know God is perfect and made us in His image, thus intelligent saurians would evolve humanoid posture".

Cetaceans, proboscids, corvids and parrots are always forgotten.
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Yeah the Dinosauroid annoys me too but it annoys me more that they call them them something else, I do think they are implausible and somehow too creepy, but calling something something else even though it's not proved right.
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Nov 13 2013, 01:39 AM
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While this was delivered in humorous manner, it's actually quite an annoying rule. Even the new 'WWD' 3D movie has some of their maniraptors lacking proper arm feathering (and its' 'bird' wings look like a second manus attached to the wrist at first glance).
Actually it seems unlikely to me that a active predatory dinosaur would have had primaries. Wouldn't they just have gotten bent when attacking an animal with their claws? This is pure speculation on my part of course.
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That's why maniraptorans used their toe claws. Primaries can clearly be seen on the fossils of Microraptor, Sinornithosaurus, Caudipteryx, and a number of other small maniraptorans.
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Here's an even better dinosauroid
http://nemo-ramjet.deviantart.com/art/Retro-Humanoid-Dinosauroid-161249945
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CyborgIguana
Nov 13 2013, 12:45 PM
That's why maniraptorans used their toe claws. Primaries can clearly be seen on the fossils of Microraptor, Sinornithosaurus, Caudipteryx, and a number of other small maniraptorans.
Both Microraptor & Sinornithosaurus were most likely tree gliders, & Caudipteryx was not a predator that hunted with it's claws. Why would they have such claws on their fingers of they didn't even use them? I highly doubt that most dromaeosaurids had primaries.
Edited by MarxRaptor, Nov 13 2013, 01:23 PM.
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