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| What annoys you about paleontology?; Rant on about moronic theories, complaints, or just animals that annoy you. | |
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| Topic Started: Sep 28 2013, 05:04 PM (256,447 Views) | |
| DinoBear | Nov 13 2013, 06:38 PM Post #796 |
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Well, it might not have scales, but I think this guy gives bald oviraptorsaurs a run for their money. ![]() Anyways, I hate whenever people call any feathered thing a giant chicken, because I guess anything that has even the tiniest amount of fluff on it is immediately weak and useless. Not to mention that, going by the same logic, tigers must be wimpy rabbits because they are covered in fur. |
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Nov 13 2013, 07:20 PM Post #797 |
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I stand in the shadows waiting for you to return me to the light.
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Also note on dinosaurians I rather think that is dinosaurs never died out that they stay somewhat more primitive in shape though, I mean not humanoid for the most bit because then they are alien grays which hunt everybody's nightmares, but their not looking like a normal raptor either, somewhat gorilla like Raptor species with enough fingers to be similar to ours then they could have kept the shape of a dinosaur who has a form of a gorilla in which by gorilla that it kinda has long arms but can walk somewhat like a awkward human. |
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| CyborgIguana | Nov 13 2013, 07:40 PM Post #798 |
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So basically the Tree Creepers from Primeval, then? Yeah, I don't think so. Back on topic, I'm annoyed by the minority of paleontologists who believe that azhdarchids, and perhaps large pterosaurs in general, were flightless. If azhdarchids were flightless then why were their wings so gigantic? |
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Nov 13 2013, 07:48 PM Post #799 |
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What.
Wait... So youre saying that dinosaurs became gorilla like animals? Either that or sadistic aliens?
Interesting theory. But why exactly do you think they would evolve that way? |
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Nov 13 2013, 08:18 PM Post #800 |
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Well their not humans, also I never thought of tree creepers those things are my non real freaks of dinosaurs world. However when I say some awkward stance I mean it is somewhat still raptor like however their not walking on their hands, their still walking upright, so for say a Therizinosaurid like posture in a way the species would be normally in our eyes like their neck is kinda pushing up however their more humanoid in their shape of back being somewhat arched however still retaining most of the dinosaurian features that well it would have. Also due to most species presumably if they were to take a path to sentience they would need tools to survive, knowledge, creation of tools or such, then once those three are down they would need to have access to a more successful form. Then because apes somewhat have a succseful shape I would consider a stature similar to a chimp or a Australopithecus when it was 70% erect. Because a similar stance would help it be able to find prey/food more easily. Then note that in order to create a similar stance as I said just get up and relax your neck and shoulder ,muscles to create the spinal alignment as I said before. Plus when you consider having your arms up against your body and their not a bird's arms you would have pain in your arm's no? So it would have arms lanking somewhat down so there you go. However when I say alien grays I meant that if the original form of Dino-sapient species would exist the first idea. Because those are not dinosaurs those are alien monsters, while a more feathered avian species would be more ideal/true to the dinosaur form. |
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Nov 13 2013, 08:33 PM Post #801 |
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Pull my finger!
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One word: what. |
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| Sheather | Nov 13 2013, 08:56 PM Post #802 |
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Thank you for the set, Azrael!
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Now now, I can sort of see what he means: Basically, an arboreal dromaesaur, evolving thumbs and grasping hands for use in climbing can then - much like in our own evolution - use them to hold tools and weapons. The animal will already be a biped even if it becomes semi-arboreal, and I can see a then secondarily-terrestrial gorilla-like and then potentially semi-humanoid animal evolving from an ancestor such as this - a semi-arboreal highly intelligent, hypothetical maniraptoriforme. ![]() However, a genuinely humanoid posture in such a creature isn't likely, and I imagine it would remain fundamentally bird-like even if it became sapient. |
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Nov 13 2013, 09:36 PM Post #803 |
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Yeah somewhat like that but larger my version and less over bird so more like a droemosauridd than a parrot though. |
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| Verdant Gregor | Nov 13 2013, 09:58 PM Post #804 |
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I would hesitate to liken it to a gorilla, but regardless, it is an interesting concept. However, while I will not claim to be an expert on the subject by any means, modern birds have shown us that you do not need hands to create impressive structures or manipulate tools. Bowerbirds are renowned for creating fairly elaborate structures during their courtship rituals, and several species of bird will use their beaks to manipulate tools. Personally, were a maniraptoran to become sapient, I believe they would be more likely to follow a similar path to modern birds, using their jaws or beaks and perhaps their feet to manipulate objects instead of their hands. It would be fascinating to imagine what a civilization constructed by such creatures would look like. |
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| Sheather | Nov 13 2013, 10:01 PM Post #805 |
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Thank you for the set, Azrael!
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^ I've been thinking of that a lot lately, as my current speculative evolution world-building project makes use of a race of sentient magpies which of course, do not have hands. I would think that the only instance where the dinosaurs would use their hands rather than feet would be if they evolved first arboreally as in the above example, otherwise it wouldn't make as much sense. |
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Nov 13 2013, 10:12 PM Post #806 |
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I have lovebirds & it isn't hard to imagine a sapient parrot manipulating tools with its feet. |
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| Captain Phasma | Nov 13 2013, 10:51 PM Post #807 |
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Captain of the First Order and Boba Fett 2.0
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Sauroposeidons with waddles annoy me! I mean… EW! |
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| CyborgIguana | Nov 13 2013, 11:01 PM Post #808 |
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I agree, wattles look better on theropods (I like drawing spinosaurids with wattles for some reason). |
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| Sheather | Nov 14 2013, 01:48 AM Post #809 |
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Thank you for the set, Azrael!
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I think they look awesome. |
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| Similis | Nov 14 2013, 01:49 AM Post #810 |
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I think you meant wattles, Aardvark, in which case:![]() Hoomins, Y U NO LUV MEH! Waddle-like walk in sauropods would be impossible
Edited by Similis, Nov 14 2013, 01:50 AM.
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