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What annoys you about paleontology?; Rant on about moronic theories, complaints, or just animals that annoy you.
Topic Started: Sep 28 2013, 05:04 PM (256,445 Views)
Megaraptorking
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I stand in the shadows waiting for you to return me to the light.

Yep the fact of a dinosaur eyeing you down as food or a pesk is never a good thing especially by something like a stegosaur, ankylosaur, or a large theropod. Yeah never gonna be pretty at that point.

But yes fence or not if a Tyrannosaurus rex is behind that fence and your next to it and cannot back up your starting to get the feeling your gonna be lunch is it really wants to escape and eat people.
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Sheather
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Thank you for the set, Azrael!

That is a horrifyingly bad raptor, not a horrifying one.

Megaraptorking
 
little puffy balls of cute that go meep


Actually, I hate to say it but this is a much more accurate representation of many dinosaurs as opposed to your overly-dramatic and excessively, purposely badass scary depiction.

But what's wrong with puffy balls of cute?

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Dr. Hax
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Some people just don't like them, including me. If my raptors are going to be feathered, they have to at least have some semblances of intimidation. Like this for example:
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But that's just my personal taste.
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Sheather
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Thank you for the set, Azrael!

I'd personally think that is rather underfeathered. I think dromaeosaurs would be just as fluffy as modern birds and that most modern depictions are far too conservative with their pelage.
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Megaraptorking
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I stand in the shadows waiting for you to return me to the light.

By little puff balls I mean this really, as in puffs of good and nice, where everything cannot go wrong but it ends up becoming a problem they solve with team work and friendship....
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CyborgIguana
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Still, you can't go wrong with TLBT (except for a few of the sequels).

@Sheather: While I admit the Primal Carnage raptor is a bit inaccurate, a cute little fuzzball doesn't really fit the game's style. Badass flesh-tearing dinosaurs are what make PC such fun. You see, there's realism, and then there's artistic license. Both can be enjoyable when used properly.
Edited by CyborgIguana, Nov 17 2013, 09:52 PM.
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Sheather
Nov 17 2013, 09:44 PM
I'd personally think that is rather underfeathered. I think dromaeosaurs would be just as fluffy as modern birds and that most modern depictions are far too conservative with their pelage.
That raptor actually has the same ratio of plumage to body as your average bird- just look at the finch(?) on your profile and you'll see what I mean.
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Sheather
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Thank you for the set, Azrael!

MrRabbid
Nov 17 2013, 09:51 PM
Sheather
Nov 17 2013, 09:44 PM
I'd personally think that is rather underfeathered. I think dromaeosaurs would be just as fluffy as modern birds and that most modern depictions are far too conservative with their pelage.
That raptor actually has the same ratio of plumage to body as your average bird- just look at the finch(?) on your profile and you'll see what I mean.
No, the finch is much more feathered and rounded by its plumage whereas even feathered the PC Novaraptor is still pretty shrink-wrapped. It's not horrible, but I feel it's a bit sparse.
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DinoBear
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Primal Carnage's feathered raptor does have feathers that stick way too close to it's body, but I think we're lucky enough that it exist at all, and is fairly accurate with wings and all. Granted, the proportions are off, but every dinosaur in that game suffers the same problem.

One thing that has always got on my nerves is when people use T-Rex instead of T.rex
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CyborgIguana
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I do admit I disagree with dinosaurs made to look intimidating if it's a scientific restoration or a documentary or something else that's meant to portray them as animals. Dinosaurs didn't evolve to intimidate, they evolved to survive. Scientific works should appreciate that fact. Primal Carnage at least has the justification that the dinosaurs were engineered for combat, so it makes sense that they would be genetically modified to look as scary as possible.
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Tyrannocanthosaurus
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Banned for being rude.

Also, there are grown men who are hardcore paleo-fans, there's absolutely no reason to think that dinosaurs are only a thing for little children.
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Sheather
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Thank you for the set, Azrael!

For those who didn't understand my post, a songbird like my finch is almost doubled, even tripled, in size by its feathers:

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While a raptor, being big, would not be THAT fluffy, I feel it would be more than is often depicted.
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Dr. Hax
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http://www.walkingwithdinosaurs.com/news/editorial/diplodocus-sauropods-with-feathers/1/
^ This is a prime example of the exaggerations that paleontologists make that I complained about a while back. This guy, first of all, said this:
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Whatever debate there used to be about feathered theropods, it's over. They had feathers

He seems to be ignorant of the fact that only fossils of coelorosaurs and an unnamed megalosaur ancestor have officially preserved feathers, and it's debatable whether or not the rest of the theropod group (Including Spinosaurs, Carnosaurs, and Ceratosaurs) had feathers. So no, it is not undeniable that all theropods had feathers. Not to mention the scales found on Carnotaurus. Second, he says uses ancestory as evidence, which is fine, but here's the argument he made:
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Only a few years ago, scientists thought that the ornithischians had naked skin, but that changed in 2009 when a tiny fuzzy ornithischian called Tianyulong was announced. Here's why this is important for sauropods: if theropods and ornithischians both had protofeathers

You heard that right, he used solely Tianyulong and NO OTHER ANCESTORS as backup for his argument. If he pointed out more than one genus, that would be fine, but no, he literally used a single solitary species as evidence for it. For reference, he was bringing ornithischians into the equasion because he was trying to support ornithischian ancestors as evidence for his theory, because ornithischians are second closest relatives to sauropods, next to theropods, but according to him, "All theropods were feathered, but that's not good enough evidence". If you have a defense for this guy, I'd like to hear it, but for me, it doesn't convince me that sauropods had feathers at all.
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It's also important to note that some aspects of a dinosaur's appearance, such as it's neck, can change depending on its posture. For example, look at a green heron with its neck extended and retracted:

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Of course, a green heron is much smaller than must dromaeosaurs, but you get the idea. While their shape might not have been as hidden by feathers as many modern birds, it's quite possible that they were poofier than people imagine.

For more information on how necks specifically may or may not lie, check here and here.
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Dr. Hax
Nov 17 2013, 10:23 PM
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Whatever debate there used to be about feathered theropods, it's over. They had feathers

He seems to be ignorant of the fact that only fossils of coelorosaurs and an unnamed megalosaur ancestor have officially preserved feathers, and it's debatable whether or not the rest of the theropod group (Including Spinosaurs, Carnosaurs, and Ceratosaurs) had feathers. So no, it is not undeniable that all theropods had feathers. Not to mention the scales found on Carnotaurus.
Actually Abelisaurids are know not to have had feathers, so this guy is clearly a pseudoscientific crank for proclaiming it beyond debate that all theropods were feathered.
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