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Favorite Dinosaur Reconstructions
Topic Started: Sep 28 2013, 09:05 PM (305,683 Views)
stargatedalek
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I'm not slow! That's just my moe!

tyto (barn) owls have them, this I'm certain
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Yi Qi
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stargatedalek
Oct 6 2014, 05:31 PM
thats not entirely true that asymmetrical ears would be useless without the disc, they just wouldn't be as useful as with the disc (but the same goes for all bird and reptile ears)
They wouldn't be useless, but then they'd just be normal ears, why would they evolve to be assymetrical anyway without the advantage of the disc?

Theres no reason to have assymetrical ears UNLESS you have the facial disk to help on the amplifying system.
Edited by Yi Qi, Oct 6 2014, 07:29 PM.
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stargatedalek
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I'm not slow! That's just my moe!

if they were listening for animals "through" something, IE digging mammals under ground/snow, or insects under bark, it could still be helpful for exact pinpointing

but yes, "long distance" there would be no advantage without a disc
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In short, I think it's probable that at least some troodontids had owl-like facial disks, but it can't be known for sure. Remember just how much speculation is usually involved in paleo-art. While some of our reconstructions are probably fairly close to the real thing, we still have no way to confirm which aspects we're getting right.
Edited by CyborgIguana, Oct 6 2014, 08:57 PM.
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Well thats true, but at this point, with so much evidence going for it and absolutely none going against it, its far more likely and safer to assume an owl like appearance to troodontids than otherwise.

Just look at how convergent the two clades are and how all just seems to match, its just hard to imagine troodontids not having owl like adaptations such as facial disks at this point when every data we have shows a strong bias towards it.

Am i saying its something for certain? Of course not, that just doesn't exist in paleontology, what i am saying is, theres a thousand good reasons to represent troodontids like owls and no god reason not to.
Edited by Yi Qi, Oct 7 2014, 12:00 AM.
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After a report, the staff would like to remind everyone that this topic is for favorite dinosaur reconstructions and not whether something is plausible/not plausible, though feel free to make a topic to discuss this topic further :) Or even a speculative reconstruction topic where the discussion can continue, thank you. ~ TRT Staff
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All hail Conway.
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Just call me TLP!

When I was younger, one of my favourite books about dinosaurs was "Der große Ravensburger Atlas der Saurier" which contains many illustrations drawn by Todd S. Marshall (link to his website :) ). Most illustrations are a little bit older (and some of them are incorrect today like the Megaraptor, but keep in mind: the book is from 2004), but I still like them! :D

Here are a few pics:

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T-rex & young
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Velociraptor & Protoceratops
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Very colourful & lively (in my opinion) illustrations! :D
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I love most of Todd Marshall's illustrations, even though I find his style to be a bit dramatized. :)
Edited by CyborgIguana, Oct 7 2014, 03:41 PM.
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He began his career by illustrating heavy metal albums, so no surprise there xD
I *love* Todd Marshall's style, and am willing to pardon the few innacuracies (muscles plz) on his animals.
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