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Animal Welfare Discussion
Topic Started: Nov 5 2013, 06:29 PM (4,778 Views)
Jules
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Mihi est imperare orbi universo

I recall an operation from several years ago, where there moved 700 elephants from Tsavo.
The project costed millions.
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Tyrannocanthosaurus
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Anyway, I also can't believe people want to legalize the rhino trade, it's insane.
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Jules
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Legalizing the rhino trade ? Wat ?

I mean, it would've literally no effect. People would still kill the rhinos to hava horns. I know this can be done without killing the animal, but rhinos are slow breeders and though the horn regrows, it doesn't does so at lighting speed.
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SlenderRex
Nov 9 2013, 10:41 AM
Jurassic MT
Nov 9 2013, 06:22 AM
Furka
Nov 9 2013, 05:18 AM
as for the elephants, while i do disagree with killing them, you must realize that moving an elephant (or more than one) is not something easy and that can be done every time.
Yeah, the other problem is that the destination place to release the elephants must have good enough food and protection. Being such large animals, we can't just release them anywhere we want, so that they won't get into troble with the resident wildlives(competition for food in limited area) or villagers living around there(crops raiding, competition with livstocks.)
Don't forget, they can sterilize the elephants.
We have been over this on ZTV so you know culling sometimes is necessary to conservate the ecosystem.
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Flower
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I agree with you. And also, the killing of Bengal tigers here is really strange. A tiger appeared around 70 Km of the village so KILL it ! I don't understand why people in the Indian Villages think this way . I am really surprised to think so.
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SlenderRex
Nov 9 2013, 10:41 AM
Jurassic MT
Nov 9 2013, 06:22 AM
Furka
Nov 9 2013, 05:18 AM
as for the elephants, while i do disagree with killing them, you must realize that moving an elephant (or more than one) is not something easy and that can be done every time.
Yeah, the other problem is that the destination place to release the elephants must have good enough food and protection. Being such large animals, we can't just release them anywhere we want, so that they won't get into troble with the resident wildlives(competition for food in limited area) or villagers living around there(crops raiding, competition with livstocks.)
Don't forget, they can sterilize the elephants.
and what's the purpose of saving an endangered species if it cannot breed ? that way it would only steal resources to the animals that actually can breed.
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Crookedjaw
Nov 9 2013, 11:08 AM
And how do you do that ? Run after the elephant in a jeep, shoot it a tranq dart with a dose high enough to kill any other animal if you miss, and then sterilize it ?
Blow it's gonads off with a rifle. :P
Just kidding!

But, seriously, even if an endangered species is overpopulating in one area, I don't think they should be killed.
Edited by MarxRaptor, Nov 9 2013, 12:18 PM.
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Tyrannocanthosaurus
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Back to the canned hunting thing, I can't believe the SA lion farmers are illegally using tigers.
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Stephen
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Crookedjaw
Nov 9 2013, 11:42 AM
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Legalizing the rhino trade ? Wat ?

I mean, it would've literally no effect. People would still kill the rhinos to hava horns. I know this can be done without killing the animal, but rhinos are slow breeders and though the horn regrows, it doesn't does so at lighting speed.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2195803/Farming-rhinos-legalising-sale-horns-worth-gold-save-extinction-claims-farmer.html
Multimillion stockpile, Crook. Prices would drop immediately, not making it worth any longer for poachers to kill rhinos. Plus, read the last sentence of the article. Saying it won't have any effect is not true, CJ. The precise effect is rather hard to predict though, since we don't know exactly how large the demand is.

If only there was a way to bring some logic thinking in the minds of those who believe Rhino horn is beneficial. That would be a perfect solution.
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Tyrannocanthosaurus
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Does anyone know about St. Vincent and the Gredivines's unnecessary slaughter of humpbacks?
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SlenderRex
Nov 9 2013, 03:17 PM
Does anyone know about St. Vincent and the Gredivines's unnecessary slaughter of humpbacks?
Never heard of this. I do support the Faroe Islands whale hunt as the whales are eaten & all parts are used.
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Pull my finger!

They are being killed simply for the sake of "culture", in an inhumane way as well. Better off them using firearms instead of a knife.
Edited by Fluffs, Nov 9 2013, 03:39 PM.
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Tyrannocanthosaurus
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The Faroe island slaughter is far from "necessary". Also what I was saying is that in St.vincent humpbacks are killed inhumanly.
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Jules
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But wouldn't a somewhat significant price drop require a massive killing of rhinos ? Like, tens or even hundreds ?
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SlenderRex
Nov 9 2013, 03:42 PM
The Faroe island slaughter is far from "necessary". Also what I was saying is that in St.vincent humpbacks are killed inhumanly.
technically there's no way to humanely kill a whale, as we can't kill the mvery quickly.
that's why i think we should leave them alone.
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