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Stop Melissa Bachman!
Topic Started: Nov 19 2013, 12:13 PM (4,284 Views)
Similis
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Megaraptorking
Nov 21 2013, 07:55 PM
Actually every animal is everybody else food, in reality, lions die and become bacteria's food in which decompose the body for plants in which is eaten by plant eaters and which is eaten by lions or other large predators...
I somehow doubt scavengers like Vultures allow the bacteria to have much left xD

Hunting for sport and to fulfill one's desire to kill is beyond me, I only see this as a relic of the past when we actually had to hunt a good portion of our food, as a species. It's no longer the case, so going after animals that aren't overpopulating the ecosystem, or that you don't kill because you want to eat them, it's all disgusting to me. We assume we have authority over nature to kill whatever we want because we're better developed, but we forget that if we make ecosystems collapse, we'll be the only ones to blame. I, for one, don't want to be labelled by future generations as member of the "obsessively possessive and destructive primitive member of H. sapiens sapiens that lived in an era of great extinctions". Of course unless we make ourselves go extinct first. :P
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Megaraptorking
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I stand in the shadows waiting for you to return me to the light.

I mean really it does not matter the somebody ends up as food for the bacteria one way or the other end gives it to them.

But yeah it really is a outdated way of gathering food really, I mean now we can get food from stores. I feel like people who do it now for food it's rather okay I mean if I was starving in a place without much food and I see a deer or another animal about I am going to kill and eat that deer using it's horns as tools or decoration pieces for a necklace maybe.
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I'm perfectly fine with hunting so long as it's actually HUNTING (with my definition of hunting being killing animals for food). If hunters want to stick the heads of their kills on their cabin wall after they eat the rest then, well, to each his own. But hunting for pure sport isn't hunting at all, it's sadism! Especially when there's absolutely no sport or challenge involved at all, like in this case shooting a lion from a vehicle! I hope one of these days this evil woman ends a hunt with being trampled or gored by a bull elephant or rhino.
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Hammond
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Swigity Swag what's in the Bag

i agree with most of everyone here, hunting animals for sport is just down right cruel. i can understand if it's just for food, but for sport just labels on level 3 on psycho! sure lions are dangerous, but were they the cause of a million deaths per year? no. so it just doesn't make sense why. if she does it so she can feel powerful that's almost understanding. but taking that on an animal, again psycho.

i know i should feel hatred on these kinda people, but all i can really do is feel bad for them. what decision caused melissa to do that, what motivate here? it's all in her head, perhaps somewhere in thought she questions herself why. but what's done is done, all she can do now is deal with the consequences.

and plus, it wasn't even worth killing the lion. there was nothing to gain from it.
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Megaraptorking
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I stand in the shadows waiting for you to return me to the light.

Actually other than humans it is in the animal killing human deaths it is from I think cattle killing people from stampedes, this is more than most animals world wide. Pssst Sharks are over rated in minecraft I got killed by a cow, a mountain cow....

But really lions not the most killer animal to humans than humans themselves... But back on topic so yes I really think people just killing for sport is idiotic blah blah and killing for food is better because it is the natural order and stuff..
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Here are all the lies hunters make
1.Killing endangered species is conservation - This is not true, it's possibly the worst lie any hunter or hunt organization could make. It's technically like saying whaling can save the whales
2.Hunting brings major income to communities - Yet another thing that isn't true, little or no money goes to communities while the majority goes to hunting communities
Hunters also try to make their disgusting hunts look good by giving meat to villages, when their are technically better ways to feed villages.

Elephants - just like people in many ways, but do African governments care? No.
Lions, Leopards, and Cheetahs - essential to the ecosystem with no need to kill for sport, but again, the governments don't care

Doesn't make sense right?

To Jasper: I tried to say this post in the most civilized way possible.
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Technically hunting CAN be conservation if the species in question is overpopulated. But in cases with species that are the farthest from...such as lions, elephants, and rhinos, it is definitely not conservation. Everything else I agree with.
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Jules
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Mihi est imperare orbi universo

^I'll use the case of deer, you have to kill a part of them. Otherwise they all die.
And please, don't generalize ;)
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Tyrannocanthosaurus
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Crookedjaw
Nov 25 2013, 02:23 AM
^I'll use the case of deer, you have to kill a part of them. Otherwise they all die.
And please, don't generalize ;)
I ment endangered species, deer aren't endangered nor are they intelligent.
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Hamikins
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You will respect my authoratah.

Well............we can't REALLY tell how intelligent they are. Sort of, but not really.

And you should of made that clear that you were talking about endangered species. :roll:
Edited by Hamikins, Nov 25 2013, 07:08 AM.
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Tyrannocanthosaurus
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Banned for being rude.

Anyway, so It's just my opinion, but I think hunting(except subsistence hunting) should stay out of Africa.
(Remember it's my opinion)
Edited by Tyrannocanthosaurus, Nov 25 2013, 07:12 AM.
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and you know that the people who poach elephants and rhinos do that because of subsistence and not because they have fun from it ?
i'd also like to remember you that Africa is probably the only place in the world where we can be considered a native species.

as for the endangered species, do you know how Italic hares and Italic roe deers didn't go extinct ?
because hunters kept them in their hunting reserves and prevented them to be poached by every stoopid people or outcompeted by other animals.
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Tyrannocanthosaurus
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Furka
Nov 25 2013, 09:48 AM
and you know that the people who poach elephants and rhinos do that because of subsistence and not because they have fun from it ?
i'd also like to remember you that Africa is probably the only place in the world where we can be considered a native species.

as for the endangered species, do you know how Italic hares and Italic roe deers didn't go extinct ?
because hunters kept them in their hunting reserves and prevented them to be poached by every stoopid people or outcompeted by other animals.
Sorry to bust your bubble Furka, but there's no evidence that it works for lions or elephants, therefore hunting endangered species isn't conservation.
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Hamikins
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You will respect my authoratah.

Sorry to bust your bubble was unneeded. Don't do that again. (backseat mod (x )

I suggest going and researching the facts which is what I plan to do.
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Hamikins
Nov 25 2013, 10:45 AM
Sorry to bust your bubble was unneeded. Don't do that again. (backseat mod (x )

I suggest going and researching the facts which is what I plan to do.
Look, hunting groups like SCI made up the lie of hunting and conservation just so they could avoid laws protecting endangered species.

Now that's all I'm going to say, I don't want to get caught in a conflict.
Edited by Tyrannocanthosaurus, Nov 25 2013, 11:06 AM.
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