Bird animation set

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Bird animation set
Topic Started: Nov 26 2013, 05:39 PM (30,311 Views)
samuel	Nov 29 2013, 06:45 PM Post #46
Posts: 474 Group: Novices Member #61 Joined: Mar 4, 2013 Country Uruguay Sex Male Age 18	I guess these new animations they will serve to create the Iberomesornis WWD



Tyranachu	Nov 29 2013, 10:59 PM Post #47
Nerdasaurus Posts: 2,309 Group: Member of the Month Member #235 Joined: Apr 19, 2013 Country Philippines Sex Male Real Name Aaron Age 20	Just when I thought it'll never happen, DM goes ahead and makes it happen. I appreciate that you're making new animations for birds, it's something the game really lacked. Just a question. Do you think these animations would be appropriate for certain dinosaurs, like Microraptor?



Whalebite	Nov 29 2013, 11:50 PM Post #48
Posts: 747 Group: Maintenance Workers Member #642 Joined: Jul 20, 2013	Tyranachu Nov 29 2013, 10:59 PM Just when I thought it'll never happen, DM goes ahead and makes it happen. I appreciate that you're making new animations for birds, it's something the game really lacked. Just a question. Do you think these animations would be appropriate for certain dinosaurs, like Microraptor? That would be cool in my opinion, would love to see smaller dinosaurs coded more like birds.



~~Elephas Maximus~~	Nov 30 2013, 03:04 AM Post #49
Posts: 561 Group: Banned Member #651 Joined: Jul 23, 2013 Sex Male Real Name Nikolay Age 21	HENDRIX Nov 29 2013, 07:13 AM Iben Nov 29 2013, 03:12 AM Now I'm kinda curious how you're going to do the perching, as many birds grab the branches with their toes I'll ignore that matter and give the perching behaviours stand anims, as it would hardly be visible anyway and it would increase the required anim amount a lot. For small passerines it may be justified, and their feet often sink into perches But macaw-sized and larger birds will look weird with stiff toes... so may the finger bones can be added for large birds? Or the current anim set is for smaller species only?



Iben	Nov 30 2013, 03:06 AM Post #50
There'll be no foot-walking! Just air-flying! Posts: 1,289 Group: Trainees Member #127 Joined: Mar 11, 2013 Country Belgium Age 24	Guys dinosaurs are related to birds, but that doesn't mean that you can use the same animations Next to the fact that they move differently, they would need a different type of tail nodes and tail anims to make it look realistic really One anim for all won't give you good and realistic results @Whalebite : you can code dinosaurs like small birds, you don't need to have new anims for that, you can even do the behaviours with the current set of anims



Furka	Nov 30 2013, 03:20 AM Post #51
Posts: 15,880 Group: Moderators Member #24 Joined: Mar 3, 2013 Country Italy Sex Male Age 25	Elephas Maximus Nov 30 2013, 03:04 AM HENDRIX Nov 29 2013, 07:13 AM Iben Nov 29 2013, 03:12 AM Now I'm kinda curious how you're going to do the perching, as many birds grab the branches with their toes I'll ignore that matter and give the perching behaviours stand anims, as it would hardly be visible anyway and it would increase the required anim amount a lot. For small passerines it may be justified, and their feet often sink into perches But macaw-sized and larger birds will look weird with stiff toes... so may the finger bones can be added for large birds? Or the current anim set is for smaller species only? macaws don't move the same way as sparrows and such. plus, they already look small ingame, so i doubt it would be noticeable.



~~Elephas Maximus~~	Nov 30 2013, 03:51 AM Post #52
Posts: 561 Group: Banned Member #651 Joined: Jul 23, 2013 Sex Male Real Name Nikolay Age 21	A good solution is usage of artificial perches where the bird may sit on with stiff toes. Edited by Elephas Maximus, Nov 30 2013, 03:51 AM.



Iben	Nov 30 2013, 03:56 AM Post #53
There'll be no foot-walking! Just air-flying! Posts: 1,289 Group: Trainees Member #127 Joined: Mar 11, 2013 Country Belgium Age 24	Furka Nov 30 2013, 03:20 AM plus, they already look small ingame, so i doubt it would be noticeable. Unless when you're taking screens and go for a close up Then it would be very noticeable



~~Elephas Maximus~~	Nov 30 2013, 04:01 AM Post #54
Posts: 561 Group: Banned Member #651 Joined: Jul 23, 2013 Sex Male Real Name Nikolay Age 21	Iben Nov 30 2013, 03:56 AM Furka Nov 30 2013, 03:20 AM plus, they already look small ingame, so i doubt it would be noticeable. Unless when you're taking screens and go for a close up Then it would be very noticeable Many players (not me!) just don't observe smaller critters up close, they're happy with dinos at bird's eye view. And they don't bother if some details are absent/incorrect since it's on the small scale. While the efforts put into small animals are no less worth it than in megafauna.



HENDRIX	Nov 30 2013, 05:54 AM Post #55
-retired- Posts: 3,306 Group: Trainees Member #577 Joined: Jul 9, 2013 Country Germany Sex Male Age 23	You could definitely use the anims for smaller raptors. I think they would really suit them, the skeleton fits perfectly. After all, we don't know how they moved. Imagine something like this move around like a bird and it's really plausible http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/246/4/0/tufted_tit_drome_by_ewilloughby-d6ktost.jpg



Similis	Nov 30 2013, 06:06 AM Post #56
Posts: 3,969 Group: Trainees Member #128 Joined: Mar 12, 2013 Sex Male	HENDRIX Nov 30 2013, 05:54 AM You could definitely use the anims for smaller raptors. I think they would really suit them, the skeleton fits perfectly. After all, we don't know how they moved. Imagine something like this move around like a bird and it's really plausible http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/246/4/0/tufted_tit_drome_by_ewilloughby-d6ktost.jpg Raptor/bird leg proportions weren't the same, raptor tails were much longer and had a wider range of movement, plus IIRC, raptor arms couldn't fold as much as those of the birds.



Jules	Nov 30 2013, 06:08 AM Post #57
Mihi est imperare orbi universo Posts: 6,767 Group: Admins Member #16 Joined: Mar 3, 2013 Country France Sex Male Real Name 19 Age Julien	I thought Dromaeosaurids and troodontids could fold their arms, they had a special bone in the wrist also present in birds enabling them a wider range of movement



Iben	Nov 30 2013, 06:09 AM Post #58
There'll be no foot-walking! Just air-flying! Posts: 1,289 Group: Trainees Member #127 Joined: Mar 11, 2013 Country Belgium Age 24	HENDRIX Nov 30 2013, 05:54 AM After all, we don't know how they moved. I think this is one of the main reasons why we have muscles studies, to see how they might have moved ? We shouldn't overestimate what we know, but we shouldn't underestimate our knowledge either :p Edited by Iben, Nov 30 2013, 06:15 AM.



HENDRIX	Nov 30 2013, 06:27 AM Post #59
-retired- Posts: 3,306 Group: Trainees Member #577 Joined: Jul 9, 2013 Country Germany Sex Male Age 23	Well, we know how they could have moved, but we don't know how they really did. I can't think of any evidence why they shouldn't hop around like birds. Edited by HENDRIX, Nov 30 2013, 06:28 AM.



Similis	Nov 30 2013, 06:29 AM Post #60
Posts: 3,969 Group: Trainees Member #128 Joined: Mar 12, 2013 Sex Male	HENDRIX Nov 30 2013, 06:27 AM Well, we know how they could have moved, but we don't know how they really did. I can't think of any evidence why they shouldn't hop around like birds. Trackways of dromaeosauridae indicate they were walkers/runners, not hoppers, I don't see how it proves they should hop ._. Edited by Similis, Nov 30 2013, 06:30 AM.



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