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| Topic Started: Nov 26 2013, 10:24 PM (193,347 Views) | |
| BossMan, Jake | Oct 19 2015, 03:43 PM Post #2206 |
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Yeah I'm gonna throw out Coelurus. |
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| Acinonyx Jubatus | Oct 20 2015, 12:50 PM Post #2207 |
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Does anyone know where I can find a full-body skeletal reconstruction of Kaiwhekea katiki? |
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| Incinerox | Oct 20 2015, 01:20 PM Post #2208 |
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Āeksiot Zaldrīzoti
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Annoyingly, I can't find you a full skeleton. It's supposed to be near complete so hopefully someone'll get round to it. I can provide you with something to work with though. Here's a skull: https://plesiosauria.com/kaiwhekea.jpg And the skeletals of related taxa: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-N-GQwBEI5ms/UYyBTEwnetI/AAAAAAAAoNU/DjKR_H4o1Cg/s1600/skeletal_recon_by_riechstag-d3c82tr.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--dYyPbN8qPk/Us9iY7Fm8qI/AAAAAAAAJC0/an_X2-WBSsU/s1600/Screen+shot+2014-01-09+at+6.59.52+PM.png |
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| Acinonyx Jubatus | Oct 20 2015, 01:24 PM Post #2209 |
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Thank you, but wasn't it supposed to be a Leptocleidid? I'm looking for something to base the proportions off of. Tatenectes and Aristonectes simply do not work for that. Perhaps Nichollssaura or Thililua?
Edited by Acinonyx Jubatus, Oct 20 2015, 01:32 PM.
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| Incinerox | Oct 20 2015, 03:37 PM Post #2210 |
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Well no. For a start, Nichollssaura was indeed a leptoclidid. However, Thililua was reclassified as a polycotylid in 2011. Nowhere near what you want at all, and its proportions and skull shape should have made that clear right from the start. On the other hand, he same analysis that put Thililua as a polycotylid in 2011 also kept Kaiwhekea and Aristonectes together as a subfamily of elasmosaurids, the aristonectinae. Tatenectes might be a cryptoclidid OR an aristonectine, so if you're really concerned, ignore it, but with the current data, it should be good enough for a restoration of an aristonectine anyway. If you REALLY want me to, I could try and come up with a crude skeletal using a mixture of relevant taxa myself if it'd make a difference. |
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| Zhadow | Oct 20 2015, 03:50 PM Post #2211 |
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What's the largest known mammal from the Cretaceous? and is Gargantuavis the largest mesozoic bird? -Thanks |
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| Incinerox | Oct 20 2015, 04:24 PM Post #2212 |
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1) As far as I'm aware, it's still Repenomamus robustus, unless something's beaten it since and I've missed something. 2) Yes. Seems like it. Again, correct me if I've missed something. |
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| Furka | Oct 20 2015, 04:26 PM Post #2213 |
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There was that recently discovered mammal from Madagascar, but I don't remember how big exactly it was, so it might change nothing ... |
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| Incinerox | Oct 20 2015, 05:14 PM Post #2214 |
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Nah, Repenomamus was estimated at a good 11lbs heavier than Vintana, the mammal you're thinking of.
Edited by Incinerox, Oct 20 2015, 05:15 PM.
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| heliosphoros | Oct 20 2015, 05:56 PM Post #2215 |
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Oh cool, we actually have confirmation of the size difference between Repenomamus and Vintana. It's been terribly unclear. There's also a "beaver-sized" ptilodontoidean from Appalachia: https://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2014SE/webprogram/Paper235341.html There's hearsay about a larger Repenomamus relatively, probably twice the size, though there hasn't been any official study on it AFAIK. As for Gargantuavis, that's assuming it isn't a pterosaur, like many people have suggested. |
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| Yi Qi | Oct 20 2015, 07:40 PM Post #2216 |
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I tought most recent studies placed it near Patagoperyx, or am i mistaken? |
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| Incinerox | Oct 20 2015, 08:00 PM Post #2217 |
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Aren't you thinking of Samrukia? |
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| Paleodude | Oct 20 2015, 08:03 PM Post #2218 |
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ex-Krampus
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Does anybody know any good starter material for Paleoart, any help is super appreciated! |
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| heliosphoros | Oct 20 2015, 08:26 PM Post #2219 |
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Not that I'm aware of.
The same author - and several others - have also suggested Gargantuavis to be an azhdarchid. |
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| Trichechus | Oct 20 2015, 08:35 PM Post #2220 |
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Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
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Skeletals, especially Scott Hartman's, are essential for getting the anatomy right. Edited by Trichechus, Oct 20 2015, 08:36 PM.
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