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| Topic Started: Nov 26 2013, 10:24 PM (193,265 Views) | |
| CyborgIguana | Sep 12 2016, 11:37 AM Post #3436 |
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And even if you were right about every single one of those, I still think it's naive to assume that things would automatically be better off if dinosaurs were still around. |
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| stargatedalek | Sep 12 2016, 12:24 PM Post #3437 |
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I'm not slow! That's just my moe!
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What do you have against the 80's? I mean seriously... Jurassic World was a fun, nostalgic, campy B-movie. Do you go to Transformers and complain about how we don't have the technology to create robots like that? ARK: Survival Evolved, as we've told you time and again, is not meant to be accurate, it doesn't claim to be accurate, and it never has claimed to be accurate. Never seen Dinosaur Revolution, but from the few clips I've seen it did well for its budget. Planet Dinosaur was not great I agree. A lot of people sing it phrases but it was incredibly conservative (yes, even for its time). Decent entertainment value, nothing else. Clash of the Dinosaurs was apparently god awful, I don't even remember anything about it other than bits and pieces. JFC, despite being one of the worst dinosaur documentaries I can think of, is the best dinosaur documentary that actually uses a documentary formula. Things like WWD and Planet Dinosaur are technically mockumentaries/historical fiction. It apparently also got a pretty crummy fighting game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzLHXPYJptQ Personally I think the Finding Nemo comparison is a bad one. At least you can identify every animal to a minimum of genus level in that movie. In The Good Dinosaur the only one that you can even get based on the design is Nyctosaurus, Tyrannosaurus and Apatosaurus you only get out of process of elimination because they're the archetypal tyrannosaur and sauropod. It's not like it's at all fair to expect accuracy from a Pixar movie, but these weren't even stylized dinosaurs, they were stylized dinosaur tropes. Add to that they were more "cartoony" and less detailed in general than normal Pixar designs, and there was no way those HD backdrops could have saved that movies art direction for me. Yes because bipedal talking turtles with opposable thumbs are the pinnacle of scientific accuracy in film. FABBIAANNIIII The WWD franchise as a whole has always placed entertainment value ahead of accuracy. It makes for a comparatively accurate program that's still entertaining enough to re-watch. Dinosaur Island was a direct to DVD kids movie. What were you possibly expecting. WWD3D was half decent. Pterosaur heads were to small, tyrannosaurs were naked, Pachyrhinosaurus feet weren't quite right, and they went over their advisors heads a few to many times, but honestly it was still watchable and decently accurate. All this nagging and you don't even mention Schleich, who throws out crayon coloured plastic abominations and markets them to educators and museums. |
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| heliosphoros | Sep 12 2016, 12:36 PM Post #3438 |
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The problem with WWD3D wasn't that it was inaccurate (it was accurate, at least in terms of aesthetics), it's that it's everything cancerous about pop-culture mixed in together.
Edited by heliosphoros, Sep 12 2016, 12:43 PM.
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| Mathius Tyra | Sep 12 2016, 01:17 PM Post #3439 |
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Rat snake is love... Rat snake is life
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WWD3D could be a decent semi-documentary... It's all about the voice over that ruins it. And the fact that Cretaceous Cut isn't available anywhere else but in the Blue Ray don't make thing any better as it should... Anyway, I think we are going off topic right now. |
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| CyborgIguana | Sep 12 2016, 01:24 PM Post #3440 |
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Now? We've been off-topic for the last three pages or so. |
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| 54godamora | Sep 12 2016, 04:56 PM Post #3441 |
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ok, was the nemget formation a desert or what? |
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| BossMan, Jake | Sep 12 2016, 05:11 PM Post #3442 |
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Son of God
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No it was more of a "wetlands" to a degree similar to the Oakavango Delta in Africa with a few out lying scrublands and highlands |
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| Cheshire Litten | Sep 13 2016, 04:49 PM Post #3443 |
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The Eyes that follow you in the Alolan forests
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What colour patterns are the most realistic to see on a Dimorphodon? |
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| Paleodude | Sep 13 2016, 07:06 PM Post #3444 |
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ex-Krampus
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No real consensus from the fossil record and since pterosaurs have no close living ancestors you can't really base it off that. Just nothing too bright that could aid in a well forested area. Something like barn owl, most North American bats, and the like. |
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| TheNotFakeDK | Sep 13 2016, 07:15 PM Post #3445 |
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200% Authentic
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No puffin patterns pls. |
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| Cheshire Litten | Sep 14 2016, 03:13 AM Post #3446 |
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The Eyes that follow you in the Alolan forests
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Ok, no puffin patterns. I mean if dimorphodon lived in forests, a big white patch on the lower portion of its torso is only going to attract attention (which is not good when you need to hunt), not helping the critter blend in at all. and it might help a potential predator find a good snack. |
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| Incinerox | Sep 14 2016, 06:07 AM Post #3447 |
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Āeksiot Zaldrīzoti
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Well, if you want something a bit more specific, how's these: 1) Many forest birds tend to break up their countershading with spots, mottles and barring of varying degrees across the body. So the belly could be white with dark barring, and the back could have some flecks and mottling to replicate dappled sunlight. 2) If you want to have more visual features, insectivores have the option of including carotenoids in their pigmentation, so you could have some really trippy, vibrant things. But you seem to be going for a more subtle design. The most common display colour for forest birds is a dull red. Open space animals tend to use blue. The face and tail rudder would be the best places for such colours because they offer lots of easy to show, superfluous space. Honestly there's some pretty wicked colour patterns in nature even today. Monkeys, squirrels, diurnal bats and many many MANY birds may provide some inspiration. 3) Dimorphodon was a fairly large pterosaur for its time, and was likely the biggest threat in its arboreal environment. It would have spent some time on the ground, and was a poor flier, so if you can find birds of that vague description, you might be able to pin down a colour design for your needs. It might also free up your restrictions for experimentation with 2). |
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| Paleop | Sep 14 2016, 09:50 AM Post #3448 |
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Paleopterix
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I remember reading a paper about spinosaurus' sail being used for balance (making it bipedal) I have lost the location of said paper and strangely I have not bookmarked it.(unless the paper was deleted(?) by chance do any of you know about the paper, or where to find it? |
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Sep 14 2016, 10:35 AM Post #3449 |
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how big was Wuerhosaurus? as big as a Asiatic Elephant? or a White Rhino? |
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| Okeanos | Sep 14 2016, 11:03 AM Post #3450 |
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Which species are you referring to? The answer depends on that. W. homheni is estimated at about 7 metres, and W. ordosensis about 5 metres. In comparison apparently Asian elephants on average are between 5.5 and 6.5 metres long. Good to note that these are only estimates since we don't have a complete specimen. |
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