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Extinct Animal Questions
Topic Started: Nov 26 2013, 10:24 PM (193,224 Views)
Incinerox
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A sweeping generalisation, but an otherwise simple answer:

No.
Edited by Incinerox, May 6 2018, 03:42 PM.
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No to what?
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Six Foot Turkey
May 5 2018, 08:50 PM
54godamora
May 5 2018, 08:22 PM
ok not sure if this counts as a bump or not but what was the environment of china 160 mya like?
Based on the species of plants found, the climate likely would have been subtropical to temperate. Many species discovered there have gliding capabilities so you would definitely expect a heavy forested area.
uhh, no. Based on modern gliding animal distribution, gliding is almost always synonymous with open forests similar to Southeast Asia. dense forests very rarely have gliding animals because the trees are so close together, they have no reason to do anything but climb or jump to the next tree.
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May 6 2018, 06:02 PM
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54godamora
May 5 2018, 08:22 PM
ok not sure if this counts as a bump or not but what was the environment of china 160 mya like?
Based on the species of plants found, the climate likely would have been subtropical to temperate. Many species discovered there have gliding capabilities so you would definitely expect a heavy forested area.
uhh, no. Based on modern gliding animal distribution, gliding is almost always synonymous with open forests similar to Southeast Asia. dense forests very rarely have gliding animals because the trees are so close together, they have no reason to do anything but climb or jump to the next tree.
That being said, I don't believe there actually are any gliding animals from that area, sans the outdated interpretation of Microraptor as a glider. Unless there are some flying lizards or mammals I don't know of.
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Just curious, outdated as in it doesn't glide at all, or it's actually flying now? I don't keep up with Microraptor finds.
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stargatedalek
May 6 2018, 04:24 PM
No to what?
Lelka's question. Didn't see your post or At0m's by the time I posted mine.
Edited by Incinerox, May 7 2018, 01:32 AM.
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May 6 2018, 03:17 PM
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May 6 2018, 02:50 PM
What prehistoric creatures do we have the most material of and/or are studied the most?
I know Maiasaura peeblesorum is one of them due to the amount of fossils we have of them throughout their life span but are there any other organisms that come close
Microraptor is probably the best known dinosaur by far, with Psittacosaurus in a clear second.

Though if you're talking post Mesozoic things get a lot more confusing.
I'd add Edmontosaurus to that, even counting the two different species.
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Incinerox
May 7 2018, 01:31 AM
stargatedalek
May 6 2018, 04:24 PM
No to what?
Lelka's question. Didn't see your post or At0m's by the time I posted mine.
Aah, I should have caught that. Glancing back I didn't catch there was a yes/no question recently.

magpiealamode
May 6 2018, 10:37 PM
Just curious, outdated as in it doesn't glide at all, or it's actually flying now? I don't keep up with Microraptor finds.
Not so much evidence that it flew, as evidence that it didn't glide, and therefore by process of elimination flew. The feather orientation simply wasn't useful for gliding regardless of position of the hind legs, whereas by folding them very far back they formed a large surface fairly similar to a birds tail, likely improving maneuverability when flying through forested areas (think kites), and improving aerodynamics but only when moving at high speeds.

So either Microraptor was nosediving from tree to tree, which is pretty redundant and easily accomplished without any of these extensive adaptations, or it was flying.

Furka
May 7 2018, 02:00 AM
stargatedalek
May 6 2018, 03:17 PM
At0m
May 6 2018, 02:50 PM
What prehistoric creatures do we have the most material of and/or are studied the most?
I know Maiasaura peeblesorum is one of them due to the amount of fossils we have of them throughout their life span but are there any other organisms that come close
Microraptor is probably the best known dinosaur by far, with Psittacosaurus in a clear second.

Though if you're talking post Mesozoic things get a lot more confusing.
I'd add Edmontosaurus to that, even counting the two different species.
Edmontosaurus is noteworthy, but most of what sets it apart is soft tissue based material rather than intricate knowledge of its behavior. Sinosauropteryx and Archeopteryx are in a similar position.
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stargatedalek
May 6 2018, 03:17 PM
At0m
May 6 2018, 02:50 PM
What prehistoric creatures do we have the most material of and/or are studied the most?
I know Maiasaura peeblesorum is one of them due to the amount of fossils we have of them throughout their life span but are there any other organisms that come close
Microraptor is probably the best known dinosaur by far, with Psittacosaurus in a clear second.

Though if you're talking post Mesozoic things get a lot more confusing.
Confuciusornis is also a notable species. Known from several hundreds of specimens. Tyrannosaurus is one of the most well studied dinosaurs.
For post Mesozoic, many of the animals known from the La Brea tar pits can be found in great numbers. Predatory species in particular.
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stargatedalek
May 6 2018, 06:22 PM
Flish
May 6 2018, 06:02 PM
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May 5 2018, 08:50 PM
54godamora
May 5 2018, 08:22 PM
ok not sure if this counts as a bump or not but what was the environment of china 160 mya like?
Based on the species of plants found, the climate likely would have been subtropical to temperate. Many species discovered there have gliding capabilities so you would definitely expect a heavy forested area.
uhh, no. Based on modern gliding animal distribution, gliding is almost always synonymous with open forests similar to Southeast Asia. dense forests very rarely have gliding animals because the trees are so close together, they have no reason to do anything but climb or jump to the next tree.
That being said, I don't believe there actually are any gliding animals from that area, sans the outdated interpretation of Microraptor as a glider. Unless there are some flying lizards or mammals I don't know of.
Well while I was apparently wromg about the level of foresting, I must point out that there were a number of gliding species, many of which would be found in the Tiaojishan Formation. Volaticotherium and Yi Qi in particular.
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@Six Foot Turkey: Just for future reference, you could have accomplished that without a double post, as it's possible to quote more than one block in a single post. No warns or anything, just letting you know :)

Anyway, Anchiornis currently numbers well over 200 specimens so I think that's noteworthy for this discussion. It's also important because that's the dinosaur whose color we know very well. Every major area of the body is accounted for, although there does seem to be some discrepancy between specimens.
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what was the environment like for tanzania 150 million years ago?

this is only hint of info i have regarding the tendaguru formation coming from my Princeton Dinosaur Field Guide Vol2: Coastal, seasonally dry with heavier vegetation farther inland.

what kind of habitat would that be?
Edited by 54godamora, May 24 2018, 09:02 PM.
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From what I recall it was almost exactly like the Morrison however it was wetter and had more swamps and bogs
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54godamora
May 24 2018, 08:54 PM
what was the environment like for tanzania 150 million years ago?

this is only hint of info i have regarding the tendaguru formation coming from my Princeton Dinosaur Field Guide Vol2: Coastal, seasonally dry with heavier vegetation farther inland.

what kind of habitat would that be?
Tendaguru was a tropical dry forest environment, so it had very distinct wet and dry seasons. Obviously, coastal with salt marshes being present.
Edited by Flish, May 25 2018, 12:44 PM.
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May 25 2018, 12:44 PM
54godamora
May 24 2018, 08:54 PM
what was the environment like for tanzania 150 million years ago?

this is only hint of info i have regarding the tendaguru formation coming from my Princeton Dinosaur Field Guide Vol2: Coastal, seasonally dry with heavier vegetation farther inland.

what kind of habitat would that be?
Tendaguru was a tropical dry forest environment, so it had very distinct wet and dry seasons. Obviously, coastal with salt marshes being present.
main location for the setting of an RP im doing with a friend regarding this environment is inland since the fossil record for tendaguru doesn't show any evidence of coastal aninmals...unless you count tendaguruipterus

oh and could ceratosaurus swim?
Edited by 54godamora, May 25 2018, 01:34 PM.
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