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The many lies of hunters
Topic Started: Jan 6 2014, 05:19 PM (5,447 Views)
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Furka
Jan 8 2014, 04:12 AM
but Elephants can be quite problematic animals too. especially if they learn to associate humans with food, because then they won't stop looking from food in urbanized environments.
I remember this case of an elephant that once found a banana inside a car,so he started smashing every car searchng for bananas until he was put down. Not to mention the damage an elephant (let alone a herd of them) can do to crops, and the fact that they don't appreciate when farmers try to defend their properties ...
In India, they use captive elephants to scare off wild ones. They also have captive ones in Africa but not as many.
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Jules
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Mihi est imperare orbi universo

That could work, but elephants don't breed in captivity. I thought that red peppers or pimentos scared them off, though.
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Crookedjaw
Jan 8 2014, 09:42 AM
elephants don't breed in captivity
They breed well in zoos, and even better in native countries.
However, letting a working elephant female to have a calf means she should be freed from work for quite a long time. So most owners prefer not to breed their elephants at all.
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Pull my finger!

And the majority wild-caught are ripped apart from their families, don't forget that.
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Elephas Maximus
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And don't forget that training a working elephant (captive-born or wild-caught) means breaking him.
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Pull my finger!

Which usually means chaining the poor thing up and beating it down.
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Laura
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I dont understand people that do that stuff. Yes they need the work-force but why do they have to hurt the animal?
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Jannick
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Papua merdeka!

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Jan 8 2014, 11:10 AM
Which usually means chaining the poor thing up and beating it down.
This only happens to wild-caught elephants, but not nearly everywhere and corporal punishment is also not necessarily involved.
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especially because if you go to an elephant and whack it with a wooden staff, the elephant can easily turn back on you, and you can imagine what an angry elephant can do to a puny human ...
Edited by Furka, Jan 8 2014, 01:26 PM.
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If the elephant is broken being young (like those at horrible pics from Ringling Circus), it won't resist much later... and usually in case of attack the trainers survive.
A wild bull elephant would squish everybody who dares to poke or beat him.
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Jannick
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Papua merdeka!

Well, in the practice of 'crushing' (which is what happens to wild-caught elephants in some places, but not all) the animal is tied up in a tall cage to the point where it is unable to move, until its 'spirit' is broken. This sometimes includes beating with sticks aswell.
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Pull my finger!

It's extremely cruel, which is why some laws are making into place about them (sadly they're quite weak)
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All in all, it's ridiculous when a person with nickname related to carnivorous animals starts anti-hunting topic :)
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CyborgIguana
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Animals simply hunt for food, however. Humans are the only creatures that hunt for sport.
Edited by CyborgIguana, Jan 11 2014, 08:08 PM.
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Mastodon28
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Humans also hunt for food, though. Where do you think the meat we eat comes from?
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