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| Topic Started: Jan 10 2014, 03:49 PM (4,770 Views) | |
| Imp | Jan 12 2014, 04:30 PM Post #61 |
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It is also a bit weird that you say they were imported into Indiana to hunt deer. Coyotes are to small to be able to hunt deer. They might catch a fawn once in a while, but most of the time, the coyote gets chased of by the mother deer
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| fridooh | Jan 12 2014, 04:46 PM Post #62 |
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I haven't found anything suporting that information, i don't think people brought back the coyotes to hunt deer ![]() "Coyotes were considered rare or uncommon in Indiana until the early 1970s. Since then, they have shown their ability to adapt to the Hoosier landscape in increasing numbers and will continue to persist with little human assistance. Hunting and trapping should continue to be actively pursued as a method of population control. When livestock depredations do occur, it should be recognized that problem coyotes should be considered unwelcome members of the native Indiana wildlife community." From this site |
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| Knertje2208 | Jan 12 2014, 04:55 PM Post #63 |
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It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.
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our cat loves to be outside and is perfectly healthy. his fur is amazingly soft because of the winter! He doesn't have supervision when he is outside. so I disagree cats shouldn't be kept indoors. they are still natural preditors. have you ever seen a lion hunting indoor? |
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| fridooh | Jan 12 2014, 05:02 PM Post #64 |
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But it totally depends on where you live. I live in Sweden and nothing here can be a threat to a cat (maybe badgers but it's uncommon..) so my cat too is outdoors when she wants. But in some countries, there are a lot of animals that kill domestic pets - for example the coyote. So for the cats saftey, they should be kept inside or outside with supervision!
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| Knertje2208 | Jan 12 2014, 05:45 PM Post #65 |
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It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.
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well, here in the netherlands there is no animal which can kill a cat. cars don't drive near my house. the only danger is the train track, but there is a moat between our house and the train track (luckily) |
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| Furka | Jan 12 2014, 06:13 PM Post #66 |
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Lion: 200 and more kg of Super predator with no natural threats (and likely illegal to keep in most countries). Domestic cat: a small, dumb furball (not a natural predator) which could be killed by a lot of natural and human factors (the latter being more likely given how close to urban environments cats live). |
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| fridooh | Jan 12 2014, 06:28 PM Post #67 |
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Well, lucky for you, you don't have to worry about your cats safety. But if it was dangerous for your cat to be outside, i guess you'd probably consider making her/him an indoor cat. And many cats are happy that way, too. A cat is not a natural predator, they are domestic and totally dependent on humans, so you can't really compare a cat with a lion
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| kozak246 | Jan 12 2014, 09:45 PM Post #68 |
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I LIKE KITTY KATS |
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| Sheather | Jan 13 2014, 03:04 AM Post #69 |
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Thank you for the set, Azrael!
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Cats kill native animals and are a destructive invasive species. That is why they should not go outside unsupervised, even if predators are absent, they ARE a predator. |
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| Mathius Tyra | Jan 13 2014, 04:01 AM Post #70 |
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Rat snake is love... Rat snake is life
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Agree. Look at what happened to Stephens Island Wren after cats were introduced into their habitat.... |
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| Furka | Jan 13 2014, 04:05 AM Post #71 |
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dogs can be dangerous to native animals too, although not as much as cats. not to mention, they can be dangerous for people too. so I don't agree with free roaming dogs too. |
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| Flower | Jan 13 2014, 07:21 AM Post #72 |
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eternal finessé
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Stray dogs in harsh conditions turn rabid, and therefore, semi-wolves. Jungle cats in our city killed an average of 24 human babies in the city, and cross breeding within domestic and wild ones, result in furious street cats. An average of 240 sparrows killed in last decade. All animals have the power to evolve, either mentally or physically. |
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Jan 13 2014, 09:04 AM Post #73 |
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What species do you mean? Felis chaus? The children should have been tasty, with soft delicate bones and blubber. |
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| fridooh | Jan 13 2014, 05:35 PM Post #74 |
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Cat's could never survive without humans here. But it's due to winter, many feral cats freeze to death in the winter. At the cat shelter, we have many cat's who has lost bodyparts in the cold.. But I can imagine that in warmer countries, feral cats must be a problem. They reproduce very quickly! |
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| Mathius Tyra | Jan 13 2014, 09:25 PM Post #75 |
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Rat snake is love... Rat snake is life
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Yes, they are out problem here. Many cat owners don't spray their cats and let them go out. For their cats start to breed uncontrollable, they ignored them. Once the kitten growed up as freal cats they started to breed. This happened over and ocer again in my village. Now we have plenty of feral cats. We must thanks pythons and water monitors alot that they help decrease the cats number. However, some people don't like that. It's quite annoying hear them discuss about their favorite feral cat permanent disappearance like this.. "Hey! Have you seen Spotty? She has disappeared for a week." "Me neither, I think she was eaten by monitor lizard." "Evil creature! We should destroy em all, so the little fluffy cats could be safe!" And yes, they are talking about FERAL cats, the cat that they don't even own.... |
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